What’s the pass mark for next year for our team and coach

[Geek]

I'd hope we see better footy. More direct with the courage to take on the play, even if it might result in a contest. Yeah we'll leak a few at first but only through trusting our teammates and their ability to win their contests will we get the cohesion and trust that will allow us to play the attacking brand that we want to.

We got beaten soundly a few times in 2016. Won a couple of close ones in 2017 but lost more. I'd like to see us win more of the close ones next year and also to start going about putting teams to the sword again. Our biggest winning margins in 2017 were 45 and 54 points against the hapless Lions and Kangas. The rest were all under 5 goals. Winning the close ones and putting away the easy ones will give us the confidence we need to take risks, break lines and push the oppo on to the back foot.

[Pies4shaw]

1. Top after the home and away.

2. Premiership.

As an alternative, I would accept that in 2018 and 2019.

[Monco Matt]

Pass mark = Premiership.

We have wasted the last 4 years and we should have been building during those 4 years up to a premiership tilt next season. The last 4 years of failure should not be swept under the carpet by saying that we "start fresh" from now.

If the above statement is too much to cope with then at the very least it has to be a finals appearance. 9th or 10th will not be enough. But if we want to find out what it will take to see Bux sacked then I doubt anything less than a bottom 4 finish would do that. We aren't that bad. We really should have finished this year with 12 wins to just miss the Top 8, so I expect we will replace the Eagles who look vulnerable and slide into 7th or 8th.

[Cruisinwithdids]

I guess pass marks are now irrelevant at Collingwood after ,Buckley saying if he missed the 8 he would be gone. They must have all been happy with 13th. I think though as a minimum we need to be in the finals race to the end of the season. By the first week of July at 5-10 Collingwood's season was over. When everything was on the line we played without daring and failed to take games on. I think the highest losing margin of 35 odd points is an indictment on the tactics the club, a reflection that they were not taking the game on, they were hanging on. Once the pressure was off we won a few more games but I'm afraid they were meaningless games. Collingwood need to win in the big moments when they are in the finals race by taking on the game. That did not happen in 2017.

[swoop42]

Pass mark for next year is 8th.

We've been sold the Richmond example as a reason for the Buckley retention and with the off field changes taking place it's time to deliver after 4 years without finals.

Buckley is still not safe beyond the next 2 years however unless we back up again in 2019 or somehow happen to make the grand final next season.

History shows most sides generally have to contend by playing in multiple final series before ultimately winning the flag or making a grand final.

[stui magpie]

Finals.

[Jezza]

No idea what constitutes a pass mark, as it's all relative and I don't know what the club is expecting internally next year.

I'm hoping we're better than last year and we attain more wins, so we need to win at least 10 or more games based on that assumption.

Finishing in the top 8 would be regarded as a success for mine, but I'm not confident on it happening unfortunately but never say never.

[daicos35]

The pass is when the players kick the ball to each other.

The mark is when they catch it.

It was the same this year.






(It's late)

[RudeBoy]

Win the Flag!

[think positive]

[K]

[AnthonyC]

[duke750]

As much as I think we should play finals, a pass mark for me is being able to watch our games without becoming so frustrated by the lack of direct attack. I don't want to sit yelling obscenities at the TV, screaming "for f&$ks sake, just kick the bloody thing....oh no, don't go backwards again!"

When we take the game on we look good.

I'm not sure whether Reid or Moore should play forward or back, but neither really scored heavily in 2017. Moore had 25 goals from 21 games and Reid had 14 from 15.

In 2018 we must easily beat Carlton and all the other lowly sides. Losses to Carlton, St Kilda, Essendon and Melbourne killed us this year.

We also need to learn how to put teams away late in games. Crucial.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

The club is the sum of all its parts, so I think we need to see past the senior coach and look at where we are as a club at this point and what we can realistically achieve as a club next year. The coach will say nothing less than a premiership next year while supporters will have lower sights given our stagnation in recent years.

Thirteenth position this year was actually a good result given the upheaval at the end of last year with Balme leaving and Gubby Allan coming and making his mark, then leaving under controversial circumstances and then Geoff Walsh having to right the ship.

Contrary to a few here our list isn't that good. We're lumbered with Mayne's salary, we have a hang over from having overpaid for Cloke's services a few year's back and didn't prepare for his replacement, we have too many slow plodding inside mid types, players such as Sinclair and Reid who struggle to get onto the field and an obvious lack of good KPP's.

The upside is a strong reasonably young midfield who take the game on and a sprinkling of senior talent who are good leaders on the field. If we can build on that by recruiting we'll in the national draft and then picking up some hidden gems in the rookie draft, then I can see us doing well in 2018. However our lack of proven goal kickers apart from Elliot will hold us back and prevent us having any impact on the final 8 next year. It usually comes back to a question of who is going to kick a winning score and unless something miraculously comes up I can't see where the goals are going to come from.

[think positive]