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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:40 pm
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doriswilgus wrote:
I can't see us having a really big win,because as we saw last night,we don't play four quarters and we struggle to put teams away early.A 30-40 point win is more likely,you would think.


since percentage doesn't matter, isn't that just a perfect outcome. keeps us under the radar as well.

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E wrote:
since percentage doesn't matter, isn't that just a perfect outcome. keeps us under the radar as well.


What a load of crap. One year we finished 3rd on perentage and were knocked out the first week.

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ronrat wrote:
E wrote:
since percentage doesn't matter, isn't that just a perfect outcome. keeps us under the radar as well.


What a load of crap. One year we finished 3rd on perentage and were knocked out the first week.


Yes that was back in 1992. The year the final 6 was introduced and 3rd played 6th in an elimination final.

It was also the year that the great 42 passed away pre season. Would he have made the difference between 1 more win and first place?

Firmly believe that 1992 was the one that got away from us Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:54 am
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Along with 1964, 1966, 1977, 1979, 1981, 2002 and 2011?
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ronrat wrote:
E wrote:
since percentage doesn't matter, isn't that just a perfect outcome. keeps us under the radar as well.


What a load of crap. One year we finished 3rd on perentage and were knocked out the first week.


it mattered lot under that crappy final 6 structure.

it doesnt matter under this current final 8 system.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:21 pm
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Never understand this notion that % doesn't matter, yeah, much better to finish 8th and head interstate than finish 5th and play a home final...
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We should be aiming to win enough games to finish 4th.
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This whole discussion, which comes up every year is very silly.

Of course, it's better to win well and get a good percentage. We all know that, Bucks knows that and the players know that. That's why they aim to do as well as they can each week.

However, the most important thing is obviously to win. Nuff said. Rolling Eyes
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RudeBoy wrote:
This whole discussion, which comes up every year is very silly.

Of course, it's better to win well and get a good percentage. We all know that, Bucks knows that and the players know that. That's why they aim to do as well as they can each week.

However, the most important thing is obviously to win. Nuff said. Rolling Eyes



But its also the difference between a top team and a lesser team. The top team will win games easily against lesser opposition, have that ability to kick big scores, when you cant even kick big scores against bottom sides, what hope do you have against the good sides?
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eddiesmith wrote:
Never understand this notion that % doesn't matter, yeah, much better to finish 8th and head interstate than finish 5th and play a home final...


if you are good enough, then you'll win both of those games.

the fact is that if you cant beat the 5th placed team in their home field, you are likely not good enough to go interstate the next week and beat the 4th placed team and even less likely to beat the second placed team.

on the other hand, if you are good enough to win the flag, you will be able to bet 5th placed or the 8th placed team no matter where you play them.

Since winning the flag is all that matters, then by definition percentage doesn't matter.

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E wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:
Never understand this notion that % doesn't matter, yeah, much better to finish 8th and head interstate than finish 5th and play a home final...


if you are good enough, then you'll win both of those games.

the fact is that if you cant beat the 5th placed team in their home field, you are likely not good enough to go interstate the next week and beat the 4th placed team and even less likely to beat the second placed team.

on the other hand, if you are good enough to win the flag, you will be able to bet 5th placed or the 8th placed team no matter where you play them.

Since winning the flag is all that matters, then by definition percentage doesn't matter.


Quite right unless you miss the 8 on %

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:57 am
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^ I prefer we win games by a point than loose games because we spent heaps on building % in games against lesser opposition the week before.
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1. % is a good indicator of how you are playing. Good % means you are an efficenct team and have the balance of attack and defence right.

2. If % is the difference between a home final or not, it matters a bloody lot. However winning more games is first priority...... of course.
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dalyc wrote:
E wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:
Never understand this notion that % doesn't matter, yeah, much better to finish 8th and head interstate than finish 5th and play a home final...


if you are good enough, then you'll win both of those games.

the fact is that if you cant beat the 5th placed team in their home field, you are likely not good enough to go interstate the next week and beat the 4th placed team and even less likely to beat the second placed team.

on the other hand, if you are good enough to win the flag, you will be able to bet 5th placed or the 8th placed team no matter where you play them.

Since winning the flag is all that matters, then by definition percentage doesn't matter.


Quite right unless you miss the 8 on %


.....Or the top four and the double chance. Even great sides can have an off day (see GF1, 2010).

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dalyc wrote:
E wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:
Never understand this notion that % doesn't matter, yeah, much better to finish 8th and head interstate than finish 5th and play a home final...


if you are good enough, then you'll win both of those games.

the fact is that if you cant beat the 5th placed team in their home field, you are likely not good enough to go interstate the next week and beat the 4th placed team and even less likely to beat the second placed team.

on the other hand, if you are good enough to win the flag, you will be able to bet 5th placed or the 8th placed team no matter where you play them.

Since winning the flag is all that matters, then by definition percentage doesn't matter.


Quite right unless you miss the 8 on %


If you are relying on percentage to qualify as the 8th best team in the AFL, then you have absolutely zero chance of winning the flag (whether you finish 8th or 9th). Since winning flags is all that matters, this is further proof that percentage doesn't matter.

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