#17,#11 Dayne Beams

[Mike35]

Hello fellow pies fans, long time reader first time poster so apologies if I don’t get this right.

I was just reading the comments here and felt compelled to write something about the Beams trade because it seems a lot of people believe we paid overs.

For mine, getting Beams back was a massive win for the club and I have no issue with what we traded. Consider this:

1. Yes, we gave up “two first round picks”. But assuming we finish in the same place next year (more likely now with another AA mid), the net value of the picks traded was roughly 1,390 points - equivalent to about pick 10. Last time we had pick 10 we got Nathan Freeman and we all know how that turned out. The pick 10s since then were: Nakia Cockatooo, Harry McKay, Jack Bowes & Lachie O’Brien - hardly world beaters. Sure, sometimes a late first rounder gets you a Grundy, but more often it’s a bust (Broomhead, Kennedy). So in reality, we didn’t really give up that much.

2. We NEEDED another inside-outside player. Treloar breaks lines, Sidey a finisher, Pendles silky, but outside Tay we lack inside grunt. Both finals against West Coast were lost because they got on top in the centre clearances. Sier will be good but needs time. Beams’ versatility and goal kicking prowess will suit our game style perfectly. Add a fit Wells to that mix, and it will be the strongest midfield in the game.

3. We will still draft the same players. No seriously. Our draft strategy is to get Quaynor and Kelly at a discount and maybe Bosenavualagi. A bid will come for Q in the first round so we could not pick anyone before him anyway. And we were always going to be in deficit next year, so our 2019 first rounder would have been downgraded. So we still get the same top end talent in the draft, without having lost any of our players this year to rival clubs.

Beams will be 29 next season, but is still at the peak of his powers. There is no doubt he is one of the top 10 mids in the comp right now. Barring injury we should get at least 3 elite seasons from him. Most importantly, we add an elite senior player to our mix at a time we are contending for a Premiership. Perfect player, perfect trade, perfect time for mine. And given his front ended contract it should still allow us to go after a free agent next year.

Welcome back Beamsy .

[Pies2016]

^^^
Welcome Mike.

I’m not quite the Beams trade fan that some are but it’s a good post.
You might as well get involved, it’s going to be a long off season 😀

[K]

The simplification "Beams for pick 10", at the least, feels not totally crazy from either club's perspective.

[3rd degree]

dp.

[3rd degree]

Welcome back Beams, I still wont forget his smug exit, so he better get back to smashing it.

[Culprit]

Have we taken over Beams Contract or does he get a new one? If we have taken over his contract then it's a win as his was front end loaded with the Bears.

[Deja Vu]

Who would you rather have though? Gibbs or Beams?

No contest

[melliot]

I agree we could fall off just as easy as the Crows. So no cazy camps for us. Need to continue the love.


The competition is very tight. A matter of 2 games separating top 4 to missing the 8. If nothing changes in performance, we'll get a tougher fixture, which could see us miss the 8.

[Pies4shaw]

[BBHS]

So full circle the assets involved in the two deals:

Pies End up with:
JDG
Crisp
Beams
Greenwood
Pick 41 & 44 - Isaac Quaynor*

Bears End up with:
Pick 18
Future First Pick 18 I'm tipping
Pick 56
2014 Pick 65 Josh Watts - Delisted
We slayed them in my opinion.

[Pies2016]

[SwansWay]

[E]

[Deja Vu]

[Pies4shaw]

Only if you think Collingwood needs another slow mid more than it needs outside run from the midfield. Also, Gibbs has kicked 4 goals in his last three finals and once kicked 3 in a final.