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Pies2016 



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:51 pm
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^ Thanks for the hitouts to advantage figure. That's staggering. It serves to underline my point about us all expecting a lot of Grundy.


The other point my posts highlights is that with four goals of our first 6 starting from our defensive 50, Langdons early intercept marks were one of the main reasons for us being ahead at quarter time. We pressured them really hard when the ball was in dispute and Langdon reaped the reward and set us up coming back again. Once they got the uncontested marking game going, we lost our ability force it back off them.
Obviously I don’t need to sell him to you but any criticism levelled at Langdon in the GF is clearly well off the mark.
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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:22 pm
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
^ Thanks for the hitouts to advantage figure. That's staggering. It serves to underline my point about us all expecting a lot of Grundy.


It also serves to underline the point that the definition of hitouts to advantage should be changed.

The definition is "A hit-out that reaches an intended teammate". I suppose it's intended to give credit to a ruckman who can hit the ball to his teammate, even if the teammate is a talentless leper (or, worse still, a Carlton player) who can do nothing with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:24 pm
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Pies2016 wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
^ Thanks for the hitouts to advantage figure. That's staggering. It serves to underline my point about us all expecting a lot of Grundy.


The other point my posts highlights is that with four goals of our first 6 starting from our defensive 50, Langdons early intercept marks were one of the main reasons for us being ahead at quarter time. We pressured them really hard when the ball was in dispute and Langdon reaped the reward and set us up coming back again. Once they got the uncontested marking game going, we lost our ability force it back off them.
Obviously I don’t need to sell him to you but any criticism levelled at Langdon in the GF is clearly well off the mark.

Yes, I understood that at the time but thought it best just to let it pass.

I am, however, happy to quote it for truth. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:44 pm
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K wrote:
Meanwhile at Hawthorn...

Alastair Clarkson (on 3AW):
"You have a game like last night, you get pretty disappointed with your own coaching. You just wonder whether or not at some point in time this group of players is going to be better served with a different coach."

"I want to sit down and make sure we use the fullness of the next two years to work out if it's the best thing for the football club that I'm the bloke that continues to take charge."

think positive wrote:
In a heart beat! Yes please!

Director of football??

K wrote:

https://www.9now.com.au/footy-classified/2018/clip-cjh64nlrb00nr0hmn5rkg4cfv

$1.5million... Posturing... At least one football club...

And more rumblings:

https://www.9now.com.au/footy-classified/2018/clip-cjhq7o6vd008p0gt9dzehnb8u


Hawthorn lock in coach Alastair Clarkson until 2022

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-lock-in-coach-alastair-clarkson-until-2022-20181006-p5086o.html

"Clarkson will be 54 by the time the contract expires and will have been Hawthorn coach for 18 seasons."
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:48 am
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K wrote:
Meanwhile at Enemy Headquarters:

Blues bring Walls back to Carlton for 2019

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-02/blues-bring-walls-back-to-carlton-for-2019

' "I'm helping out in a very small way, just in a mentoring role with the coaching staff. I'll be just a sounding board throughout the weeks and match days, so hopefully I can give them some support," Walls told carltonfc.com.au.

Carlton's newly arrived head of football, Brad Lloyd, said Walls was approached as part of the club's plan to continue the development of its coaching staff. '


Shocked


Certainly looking forward to Silvagni playing more in the ruck!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:40 am
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It would be good if Walls punches a few Carlton blokes too. Isn't that his way of coaching?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:24 pm
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Clarkson:

"... what Jeff says about the lifespan of an AFL coach (being) between six and eight years, he's probably right.

"It's very easy with ego and success to put coaches, players, whatever on a pedestal, but that's never been our way at this footy club – and it continues not to be that way.

"We've got a footy subcommittee that doesn't allow a coach, player, administrator or anyone else to take charge of the football club. We've always had a shared, family decision-making model.

"So thanks to those guys who keep our club stable and steady and keep us aligned to our values at different stages in this very hard game and in this very hard life at different stages."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-06/very-strange-beast-clarkson-signs-new-deal
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:05 pm
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It would be good if Walls punches a few Carlton blokes too. Isn't that his way of coaching?

Ask Shane Strempel.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:12 pm
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^ The suggestion is that this is LoGiudice's way of putting a "spy" among the coaching staff. You wonder if a club would do something like this if the senior coach had the playing pedigree that the AFL community seems to think is so necessary. Old-fashioned thinking?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:46 am
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A very interesting topic now 2018 season has concluded and I ponder

Has sucsess created Buckley as a far better coach —OR —has Buckley created sucsess to become a far better coach

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:03 pm
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A newish book quoted Denis Pagan, saying something like:

"I saw Nathan Buckley's kick-in play book. It had 25 different plays. Terrific stuff, but so bloody complicated."

So many questions. e.g.
How did Pagan get hold of NB's play book?
Do you think we've seen 25 different (successful) kick-in plays in NB's time as senior coach?
Are players mentally incapable of coping with that sort of thing?
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:33 pm
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1. What book?
2. Have you watched NFL?
3. No one ever accused Pagan as being a strategic coach

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:35 pm
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Glad i waited tp now to read this
so many post that should be deleted
Many posters would be embarassed by what they have posted

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:47 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
1. What book?
2. Have you watched NFL?
3. No one ever accused Pagan as being a strategic coach

3. He sometimes sounds like an old fan in the outer, not a former coach.
2. It's a bit alarming if this is a problem for AFL players, because set plays should be the easy part of the game, not the hard part. (Easy, because you just need to learn it diligently, and then you don't need to think any more.)
1. ?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:01 am
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I am hoping 2018 was the appetiser and the rest of this decade is the
“just desserts “

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