Injury and illness

Presti35 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:53 pm

COLLINGWOOD

Jamie Elliott - General Soreness (TEST) Think he'll be playing. Perhaps we rested the wrong guy?

Josh Thomas - Hip (TEST) Tested and passed after being omitted from the team 2 weeks ago. Perhaps should have sat out the VFL match before missing last week too.

Chris Mayne - Knee (TEST)

Anton Tohill - Hip (TEST)

John Nobel - Calf (TBC)

James Aish - Shoulder (TBC) Tested and passed last week. Perhaps should have sat it out. Is a definite out this week.

Will Kelly - Leg (TBC) Should have been tested this week and due back next week, but now listed "TBC". Weird.

Levi Greenwood - Hamstring (TBC)

Darcy Moore - Hamstring (TBC)

Ben Reid - Calf and Hamstring (TBC) Still listed as "TBC". Not looking good after hamstring strain at training.

Nathan Murphy - Back (TBC) Was some chance to play last week, Thought would at least be a test, but another "TBC".

Daniel Wells - Knee (5 Weeks) Recovering better than expected.

Dayne Beams - Hip/Mental Health (5-9 weeks/Indefinite)

Tom Langdon - Knee (Season) Got the news we were all waiting for. Gave him a chance to recover, hasn't worked that way. But at least now we know. See you next year Tom.

Lynden Dunn - Knee (Season)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/injury-list

BazBoy · Joined: 11 Sep 2014

I’m finding it extremely difficult to take this continuity of injury and yep I can see how you get tackled and thrown down like Aish you hit a shoulder or turn awkwardly and twist a knee / ankle

But these calf and hamstrings at training mystifying—I’m not medically gifted but training is (or should be controlled) unlike the intense hurly burly of game

RudeBoy · Joined: 28 Nov 2005

A bit of perspective folks.

In terms of soft tissue injuries, we have several players, Reid, Moore, Elliott and Wells (even at North), who have long histories of these type of injuries, suggesting they have inherent weaknesses in their bodies. Add to that the obvious weakness in Scharenberg's knees. That's 5 key players on our list, who are inherently prone to recurring injuries.

I'm no expert on fitness, training or medicine, but I seriously doubt whether any different preparation for these players would have resulted in better outcomes. The club has done everything possible to assist these players, including flying Elliott and Moore to see a German sports medicine guru.

As for the rest of our list, let's not forget that footy is a brutal contact sport, where contact injuries in particular are unavoidable. At the end of the day, apart from the 5 injury prone players I've mentioned, other injuries seem to me to be nothing but bad luck and are part of the normal outcome of playing this gladiatorial game.

BazBoy · Joined: 11 Sep 2014

A good assessment Rude Boy and Reid for instance had years relatively trouble free (years up to 2010 GF and immediately after) then it spiralled out into repeating soft tissue

Cannot comment on Moore / Elliot pre drafting but did have a string of games

Wells like Beams had issues pre when picked up —-was it a good or bad gamble for these older players

I’m sure club is trying to right the injuries

Presti35 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:59 pm

From the latest list, I think Beams, Reid and of course Dunn & Langdon will be the only players not to suit up again at some level in 2019.

Pies2016 · Joined: 12 Sep 2014

Error. I just answered my own question

BazBoy · Joined: 11 Sep 2014

Did Beam,s say a back or hip (not sure which) was injury he bought with him
from Lions
Also saying discussion with club was managing said injury (said this on a “rest” week maybe only six or so game in to season

The mental problems came along later—if he gets head right and the “injury “
subsides there could be a chance with a BUT

Come in as complete right and stay in —and perform

RudeBoy · Joined: 28 Nov 2005

I doubt he'll play again this year.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he retired at season's end.

What'sinaname · Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free

Would be awesome if we could renegotiate Beams' contract and both part ways at the end of this year.

BazBoy · Joined: 11 Sep 2014

Feel there will be a few exits due to age / injury

Wells
Reid

Feel one player should be considered to go around again is Goldy

Achilles · Joined: 25 May 2010

I’d like to see Wells go another year.

Cam · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:24 pm

i'm really surprised Maynard hasn't featured on the list. Every game he goes down like he's dead and miraculously recovers.

K · Joined: 09 Sep 2011

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Raw Hammer · Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Location: The Gutter

Here’s some fun reading. Check out the injury lists of some ‘legitimate’ Top 4 prospects:

Collingwood: 16 (plus Stephenson)
Up to 11 (12 inc. Stephenson) would be considered top 22 players

Geelong: 5
2 (at most) would be top 22 players

Brisbane: 3 (2 of which are ‘tests’)

West Coast: 13 (many of them ‘tests’)
3 would be considered top 22 players

GWS: 12
6 would be considered top 22 players

In summary, we have ZERO chance of a premiership this year. Basically, only ‘healthy’ teams end up winning flags. At best, we limp into a prelim or GF on pure G’n’D and add another GF loss to the list.

Depressing, I know. But it ain’t happening.