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Jezza
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This is eery...
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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie
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So that's the 3rd opinion piece, all from different perspectives.
We seem to be definitely heading toward some kind of schism where the actual far right and left are moving further away from centre and the vast majority at various points in the middle cop the fallout. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Pies4shaw
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As you say, interesting but I don’t get the impression that there’s any policy basis for this. The marginals want to keep their seats and it looks like Abbott et al merely want to install Dutton with a view to taking the spot when he stuffs up and, in the short-term, to get some revenge against Malcolm. Tony hasn’t suddenly given up his desire to be PM - if he had, he would have left Parliament and taken an actual job somewhere. |
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Wokko
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stui magpie
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If he really loved the party as he professed, he would have retired at the last election. Instead, he sat on the back benches doing everything he said he wouldn't do while drawing a salary. Just like KRudd did.
The key difference is, KRudd was actually popular with the public, so Labor put him back in as PM expecting to lose and hoping he'd minimise the losses. Abbott is not popular personally, never has been (although he has a low bar to beat in Shorten) so they'd be certifiable to put him in charge again. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
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Or not. It’s difficult to say. You could have a look at The Age’s live blog, if it doesn’t offend your religious sensibilities to do so. They seem to have reporters who are out and about trying to track down what’s actually happening and work out who is or may be shifting sides. |
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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie wrote: | ^
If he really loved the party as he professed, he would have retired at the last election. Instead, he sat on the back benches doing everything he said he wouldn't do while drawing a salary. Just like KRudd did.
The key difference is, KRudd was actually popular with the public, so Labor put him back in as PM expecting to lose and hoping he'd minimise the losses. Abbott is not popular personally, never has been (although he has a low bar to beat in Shorten) so they'd be certifiable to put him in charge again. |
The margin of unelectability separating Abbott and Dutton isn’t great, though, I’d have thought? It looks like electoral suicide to me, either way. |
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stui magpie
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Pies4shaw wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | ^
If he really loved the party as he professed, he would have retired at the last election. Instead, he sat on the back benches doing everything he said he wouldn't do while drawing a salary. Just like KRudd did.
The key difference is, KRudd was actually popular with the public, so Labor put him back in as PM expecting to lose and hoping he'd minimise the losses. Abbott is not popular personally, never has been (although he has a low bar to beat in Shorten) so they'd be certifiable to put him in charge again. |
The margin of unelectability separating Abbott and Dutton isn’t great, though, I’d have thought? It looks like electoral suicide to me, either way. |
I'm very very slowly coming around on Dutton, he's not what I thought, but yeah. He's less unelectable than Abbott, the question is, is he less unelectable than Shorten? _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Jezza
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Pies4shaw
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Stui, it probably depends a little upon whether or not First Dog On The Moon’s cartoons - repeatedly depicting him with a cabbage for a head - stick. I think it’s a little unfair - I’ve come across cabbages you might have a reasonable conversation with - but I accept that my position on these things, preferring as I do that the country not have a PM with an IQ more than 2 standard deviations below the mean, will be “elitist” and “sneering” to many on here, like everything else I post. |
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stui magpie
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fairy Nuff P4S. I don't read the Guardian as a rule, I did try for a while, but found it bad for my digestion. FWIW, typical of The Guardian, he's generally known as potato head, not cabbage head. I'm sure there's similarities somewhere.
Turnbull is possibly the most intelligent PM we've had in living memory, that hasn't served him well so far _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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swoop42
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For mine a federal election should be automatically triggered if political parties wish to remove the Prime Minister of this country.
Time to stop this nonsense. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie wrote: | ^
fairy Nuff P4S. I don't read the Guardian as a rule, I did try for a while, but found it bad for my digestion. FWIW, typical of The Guardian, he's generally known as potato head, not cabbage head. I'm sure there's similarities somewhere.
Turnbull is possibly the most intelligent PM we've had in living memory, that hasn't served him well so far |
I accept that. Turnbull’s political instincts (including, quite possibly, deciding which Party to join) don’t seem to be too flash. It’s obviously not sufficient for a successful PM to be able to read and write and count but I think it’s a reasonable thing to expect as a minimum requirement, whatever the political complexion of the incumbent. It isn’t like the Liberal Party is stuck to find supporters of reasonable intelligence. I understand that one might have to lower one’s expectations to “mouth-breathing troll” in order to enable a proper rabid anti-immigrationist to take the job under their own name and meet the expected standard but I’m happy to leave that particular anomaly for when it becomes relevant.
Basically, though, if we wouldn’t let a particular candidate run a public organisation of any significance, why would we want them to run our country? Is there some reason we should accept the Fish That John West Rejects? |
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