Allegations of sexual misconduct against two Aints.

CQ · ambitious that Joined: 25 Jul 2000 Location: melb

they prolly didnt detect the sarcasm daks is a champ, bcos rape allegations really aren't that funny.

CQ · ambitious that Joined: 25 Jul 2000 Location: melb

Proud Pies · Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Location: Knox-ish

Eunos · Joined: 07 Feb 2004

In the Clarke case there is more than one victim. I also believe there are other witnesses that lead the judge to give leave in this matter.
In the SBS case there appears to be only this womans word against that of 4 or 5 others.
As far as state of mind after a pack rape, I agree it would not be easy. But if this type of behaviour is to be stamped out it can only happen through the legal process. And that means as much evidence as possible to prove the case.
We all know that the legal system in the past has treated the victim in these cases with contempt, allowing defence counsels to paint a torid picture. Time to change all that. Fresh evidence is the best way.

swooper · Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne

From what I saw/heard last night, the woman on the 'Insight' program doesnt have much to gain from telling her story. She was adamant she wanted to maintain her privacy. As we know, rape is extremely under reported in the community, and I guess none of us know how we would react in this situation (if true). Some would go immediately to police, some would prefer to hide in their homes.

stik35 · Joined: 22 May 2001 Location: VIC

It was Craig Hutchinson who wrongly named Koschitzke.
He apologised on the news last night.

Just goes to show what happens when you don't know the facts.

Blanch · Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Location: Back in Perth!

It's a sad situation which ever way it pans out. If the boys are guilty it's sad for the girls. If the boys are innocent and being taken for a ride then it's sad that some mud will stick and their image tainted.

Either way, someone has lost out.

Magpie_Dan · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:23 pm

Can I just ask why my post was taken from this topic? I didnt mention the players involved!

Joel · Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula

If you have a problem Dan, email the mods: bbmods@magpies.net

Personally, I'm not sure.

Canberra · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:10 pm

Assasin,everything you have said is quite true. Unfortunately you have picked the wrong thread to give your opinion. In this case there are facts that are agreed on by both sides. There was consensual sex. It is the events that followed that form the basis of the investigation. I would hope you aren't assuming that because one of the parties has lodged a complaint with the police,she isn't just doing it for financial gain.

CQ · ambitious that Joined: 25 Jul 2000 Location: melb

thats ridiculous assassin, and precisely the reason a lot of people who have been raped dont tell anyone, bcos they fear NOT BEING BELIEVED. maybe the players didnt do it, maybe they did, we dont know.

magpiefanatic · Aged Pensioner Joined: 18 May 2002 Location: Mumbai

This whole story wreaks of bulldust to me. Having read what the chain of events supposedly were, something doesn't quite gel. Now they say it is a rape allegation. It doesn't matter what team you support, because these allegations affect the game, dragging it down into the gutter with that NRL slime.

Innocent until proven guilty....To be falsely accused of something like this you jave to understand what these guys are going through. I was falsely accused of something similar many years ago and I can tell you it is the most gut wrenching experience I have ever, ever had.

Sure I havent been raped so I don;t what that is like, probably awful if it actually happened and if they are guilty then so be it, let justice prevail. But my gut instinct tells me this is one big set up and it is not fair to these guys, no matter what team you play for.

Joel · Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula

The thing is, I've seen personally, false allegations been made twice before.

On New Years Eve, we caught a chick we know down at the beach in the bushes, doing what you do, with this guy. We asked if she was alright (to make sure this guy wasnt taking advantage of her), and she started crying and called over one of my friends (girl) and told her that she was raped.

Well my friend told us, so I told this bloke (his friends started to arrive at this time) to **** OFF and start running pretty quickly because they were about to get the crap beaten out of them by her brother who was down on the beach. Anyway, they started going and then her brother and his mate came up and started laying into the guy and his friends. Anyway to cut the story short, the cops came and everything settled.

Now, we find out that nothing has come of it (gee, I wonder why).

Another story was, when this guy I know broke up with his GF at the time, a couple of weeks later he went to a party where she was, and she started telling people that he raped her, trying to get him bashed. IT was all bull****, and she eventually admitted it.

...and you wonder why people are cynical. It's like the boy who cried wolf.

CQ · ambitious that Joined: 25 Jul 2000 Location: melb

Joel · Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula

When did I say that? Read the whole post, and you will get the drift of what I'm trying to say. People are cynical, because alot of people know of times when women have made false accusations.

At NO time did I say that all rape allegations aren't true.

Rolleyes don't mean stuff all CQ.