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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:32 pm
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Greg are u scared of Chad Rintoul?
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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:58 pm
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MG, please don't use the quote facility when referring to posts immediately preceding yours unless it's to highlight a specific line or paragraph.

It's for referring to a post further up, or on a previous page.

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foxy Sagittarius



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:21 pm
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gotta give props to JBT, both for their activism & their extremely solid tunes.

& soz but wasn't their latest album at no.1 for about a year? minority views?

the rest of the luminaries at the ARIAs can pretty much be ignored, excepting the cat empire (what a band!), the living end & maybe missy higgins.
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Joel Capricorn



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:09 pm
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the_weed wrote:
The point is that John Butler has as much right to hold a political opinion as Magpie Greg does. And he equally has a right to express that opinion in front of a national television audience. It was good enough for John Lennon. Bed-in, anyone? Give Peace A Chance? Power To The People? None of those were political statements, were they?


There is a time and place. He can say what he wants, but it doesn't mean anyone wants to hear it.

One other thing, good on JBT for having a point of view, but why don't the express it in a forum other than the Arias? Use there music more and more to promote their cause and they will get more people to listen than by shouting token phrases when they win an award.
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The Prototype Virgo

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:34 pm
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I guess I picked the wrong year to miss the ARIA awards, if I had of bothered to watch it I might know what is going on in this thread.

I will remember next year to watch it Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:38 pm
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Smile Do you forget things often?
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Pied Piper Aries



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:18 pm
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Joel, I think you'll find Butler's message comes through pretty clearly in his music. Which is personally not my cup of tea, but that's not the point.

What is the point is that if Butler had said "all the way with Dubya!", I somehow doubt Greg would be jumping up and down in protest on this forum. People only complain about time and place when someone says something that isn't music to their ears.

I can't be bothered discussing further though. I've got better things to do than argue with someone who cannot disguise his contempt for anyone else's point of view, and who can't distinguish anyone who disagrees with him from a stooge wrapped in a red flag.

If people can't debate a point without resorting to name-calling and flame-baiting, there's not much point.

Floor and megaphone all yours, Greg. Have it with my compliments.

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Joel Capricorn



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:53 pm
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Andrew,

I know Butler's message comes through in his songs, I didn't say they didn't. Perhaps he should confine it to that medium, or find a forum that is appropriate.

Btw, I would say the exact same thing if someone said 'Go Dubya', or whatever. I think the forum is innappropriate in any case.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:29 pm
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I guess I am lucky I do not know what was said.
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Joel Capricorn



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:31 pm
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Tess, I don't agree. It is similar to when that tosser off Big Brother made a political statement. Was it the right forum? No. Why would the Arias be the right forum?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:34 pm
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:44 pm
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Music and Politics shouldn't be put together, the same as Football and Politics shouldn't.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:23 am
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I cannot understand why artists stand up at awards ceremonies and rant about their (usually leftist) views. John Butler's behaviour on sunday night was not the worst you'll see, but he should have just left his views about politics to himself. These guys don't seem to realise that it is an honour to accept an award, not an opportunity to make sure everybody knows who you vote for. What would happen if Guy Sebastian or somebody stood up there and started giving everyone a sermon about how everyone should repent??

John Butler Trio music sucks anyway.....I can't believe he beat Pete Murray for best artist Mad

Rove's alright.....most of what he says isn't funny, but isn't that the case with all stand-up comedians??? His Shannon Noll video clip was hilarious though. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:39 am
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Stick a camera in an "artists" face and they will more than likely push whichever barrow is currently taking their fancy.
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Joel Capricorn



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:45 am
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Eunos you're right, unfortuantely.
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