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Piethagoras' Theorem 
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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My understanding was that those who talk about it most have the least so let's just drop it, aye. 
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Big T
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Location: Torino, Italy
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They we a classy bunch down at price fixer park, he follows in the fine footsteps of Jimmy Buckley and Dorotitch
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Collingwood Crackerjack
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Location: Canberra
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| David wrote: | | think positive wrote: | Well done stupied
The prosecution rests! |
Um, the prosecution rests because someone here read something posted by someone who claims to know someone? One hopes that the law of the land requires a little more in the way of evidence!
Though, if true, that story does seem to explain the decision by his management and AFLPA not to pursue the matter. That doesn't mean that they were totally in the right, however—there could still have been reasonable mitigating factors: did Bootsma know that she was underage? Was he in a position to know?
I know there are some here who think that the mere act of taking a photo of your penis and putting it online makes you a godforsaken pervert, and there'd be more than a few people with that mentality in the Carlton boardroom, so I can imagine those people will have already tuned out. Those with a modicum of interest in employee rights, on the other hand, might take a slightly more balanced approach to this.
Anyway, whether or not she was underage, I do want to see a time in the future when players' off-field actions are no longer considered aspects of their employment. If it's a matter for the law then the law can sort it out. These draconian "social media codes" laid out by employers are just totally unnecessary and—yes, Stui—more than a little fascist. |
I'd love to have you on my jury David.
Reminds me of that Dave Chappelle skit regarding R. Kelly.
Unbe-freakin-leavable
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1061
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Still no charges laid so I think we can safely assume she was not underage!
Does that assumption give more weight to Carlton moving to soon with this latest issue? |
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David 
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
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| 1061 wrote: | | Still no charges laid so I think we can safely assume she was not underage! |
Not exactly. As I wrote above, there might be a genuine claim to ignorance here—it seems quite likely that he would have no idea she was underage (whether that would work as a valid defence is another question). Or her family may not want to press charges.
Otherwise, just because there hasn't been a charge laid yet doesn't mean there won't be.
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1061
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| David wrote: | | 1061 wrote: | | Still no charges laid so I think we can safely assume she was not underage! |
Not exactly. As I wrote above, there might be a genuine claim to ignorance here—it seems quite likely that he would have no idea she was underage (whether that would work as a valid defence is another question). Or her family may not want to press charges.
Otherwise, just because there hasn't been a charge laid yet doesn't mean there won't be. |
I doubt it because we're not in America if the the Police have enough proof of him exposing himself to an underaged person they have to charge him the Police have NO discretion specially with such a public case. Ignorance of her age would not stop a charge being laid it may be a mitigating factor in his sentence but not in him being charged. |
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David
I dare you to try
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Yes, fair point on the latter. I guess we'll have to wait and see if anything comes of it. Either way, whatever comes of it legally, he'll have no recourse re: the termination of his employment. Hopefully things will be different in years to come.
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1061
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| David wrote: | | Hopefully things will be different in years to come. |
I actually think(not want like some here) the Countries fair work laws are going to go backwards in the next few years no matter what party is in power. But this is not the right forum for that discussion. |
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Bucks5 
Nicky D - Parting the red sea
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
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| 1061 wrote: | Still no charges laid so I think we can safely assume she was not underage!
Does that assumption give more weight to Carlton moving to soon with this latest issue? |
She was 15 as reported in the Age. Wouldn't that be under age for a 21 year old? |
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1061
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| The Seedsmeister wrote: | | 1061 wrote: | Still no charges laid so I think we can safely assume she was not underage!
Does that assumption give more weight to Carlton moving to soon with this latest issue? |
She was 15 as reported in the Age. Wouldn't that be under age for a 21 year old? |
I'll put my faith in the Police before I put it in the Media reporting fact! |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Lets also keep in mind while we're looking at these fascist footy clubs and their rules, that Murray Newman, a West Coast Rookie got 6 months gaol time for assault and West Coast decided to keep him on the list.
There are deliberations that take place, yes there can be knee jerk reactions but I doubt very much that Bootmsa was one.
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David
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Some might see double standards there (and I think they'd probably be right), but I'm glad that West Coast stuck by their player in that case. Hopefully that and the Collingwood reaction to the Williams case is a sign of better things to come.
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