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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:54 pm
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Will Australias National Broadband Network (NBN) face damaging competition from the upcoming 5G network? NBN Co CEO Bill Morrow thinks so.

This week, he even floated the idea of a levy on mobile broadband services, although Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull quickly rejected the idea.

NBN Co is clearly going to have to compete with mobile broadband on an equal footing.

This latest episode in the NBN saga raises the question of exactly what 5G will offer broadband customers, and how it will sit alongside the fixed NBN network.

To understand how 5G could compare with the NBN, lets examine the key differences and similarities between mobile networks and fixed-line broadband.


Read more at https://theconversation.com/5g-will-be-a-convenient-but-expensive-alternative-to-the-nbn-86216#QyT2ps3c0fraTrR2.99


They make the same observation. It's the retailers and pricing model that's the issue atm, not so much the tech model.

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Im led to believe that Bacchus Marsh (where I live) was one of the first roll outs of NBN in Victoria, and I for one love it. I was on cable in Hoppers Crossing, and the service here leaves it for dead. We stream 4K UHD movies all the time and it never misses a beat. The wife and I are NBN fans for sure.
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Im led to believe that Bacchus Marsh (where I live) was one of the first roll outs of NBN in Victoria, and I for one love it. I was on cable in Hoppers Crossing, and the service here leaves it for dead. We stream 4K UHD movies all the time and it never misses a beat. The wife and I are NBN fans for sure.


Was that when the ALP was in or more recently?

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Pa Marmo wrote:
Im led to believe that Bacchus Marsh (where I live) was one of the first roll outs of NBN in Victoria, and I for one love it. I was on cable in Hoppers Crossing, and the service here leaves it for dead. We stream 4K UHD movies all the time and it never misses a beat. The wife and I are NBN fans for sure.


Was that when the ALP was in or more recently?


The connection was here when I moved in so I cant be sure.

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My folks in Qld hate it. Reckons the service is worse than what they had before. All the upgares to software required etc and Telstra ran out of products. Testra had to loan them a laptop indefinitely so Mum could get the internet to work. She is over 80 and because of council amalgamations, hospital closures/reclassification in Maryborough and the closure of the local post office they are now outside of the safety zone. They were not when they moved there. So Telstra is now responsible for footing the bill for the idiotic decisions of the Federal, State and Council bozos.
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One of the biggest performance bottlenecks irritating end customers is retailers not buying enough capacity from the NBN. A write-off, Slattery says, would allow the bandwidth fee (called CVC) to be slashed.
Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com.au/malcolm-turnbull-will-be-unelectable-if-he-doesnt-write-off-20-billion-of-the-nbn-2017-10#8IXdQBgX02LlWe7o.99

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I had an NBN tech mark my property as unable to get coverage even though I'm 100m with direct LoS to the tower. Took 2 months to fix the issue with NBNCo reps lying to me every time I spoke to them and my ISP frustrated at every turn.

Government mandated monopolies are and always have been an inefficient, corrupt mess. There is no incentive for them to give good service as there's little to no profit motive because losses are socialised. **** the NBN and the horse it rode in on.
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Krudd set the whole thing up IIRC. Turnbull changed the tech model from FTTP to FTTN to make it cheaper, but the fundamental problems remain in place.

Under the current economic model, FTTP would be delivering even worse performance

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How do you figure? You mean itd be more expensive?
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FTTP is more expensive to do, No dispute on that. Using the current economic model set up by Krudd, NBN wholesale prices would need to be higher and the retailers would be doing what they're doing now, playing on the cheap, only more so. ergo, even worse speeds to the consumer.
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Retailers aren't buying enough bandwidth now, so peak times would be stuttering Netflix and dropouts galore.
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Pa Marmo wrote:
Im led to believe that Bacchus Marsh (where I live) was one of the first roll outs of NBN in Victoria, and I for one love it. I was on cable in Hoppers Crossing, and the service here leaves it for dead. We stream 4K UHD movies all the time and it never misses a beat. The wife and I are NBN fans for sure.


Luck You as that would be under the Labor Goverment was giving everyone Fibre Optic but not now under the Idiots in the Liberal Party screwed us who missed out.

IF everyone had Fibre Optics then lot of People would be Happier

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My folks in Qld hate it. Reckons the service is worse than what they had before. All the upgares to software required etc and Telstra ran out of products. Testra had to loan them a laptop indefinitely so Mum could get the internet to work. She is over 80 and because of council amalgamations, hospital closures/reclassification in Maryborough and the closure of the local post office they are now outside of the safety zone. They were not when they moved there. So Telstra is now responsible for footing the bill for the idiotic decisions of the Federal, State and Council bozos.


NBN has made Internet Worse just like Village and Foxtel Bribed the Government for

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Retailers aren't buying enough bandwidth now, so peak times would be stuttering Netflix and dropouts galore.


God. People Running the ISP Companies are not very Smart then

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stui magpie wrote:
FTTP is more expensive to do, No dispute on that. Using the current economic model set up by Krudd, NBN wholesale prices would need to be higher and the retailers would be doing what they're doing now, playing on the cheap, only more so. ergo, even worse speeds to the consumer.


Krudd is still better then the Prick Turnbull

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