Injury and illness

[K]

It looks like clubs have 4-8 on their injury lists:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/who-s-on-the-injury-list-at-your-club-20190311-p513be.html

(Hard to tell seriousness of injuries, though.)

[Presti35]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-13/the-full-afl-injury-list-postjlt-update-


COLLINGWOOD

Jaidyn Stephenson - Groin (AVAILABLE)

Jordan De Goey - Foot (AVAILABLE)

Tim Broomhead - Leg (1-2 weeks)

Lynden Dunn - Knee (1-2 weeks)

Daniel Wells - Foot (1-2 weeks)

Will Hoskin-Elliott - Knee (2-3 weeks)

Taylor Adams - Finger (3-4 weeks)

Ben Reid - Quad (TBC)

Matt Scharenberg - Knee (Indefinite)

[K]

Not one of ours, but...

[BazBoy]

Tom Langdon delayed concussion—-classed as mild concussion

One week not contact training but considered available for round one

[K]

No longer one of ours, but...

'... Paul Seedsman ruled out of round one against Hawthorn.

The 27-year-old underwent surgery on Friday to repair a fractured finger sustained in a tackling drill at training on Thursday.

"Displacement of the small bone fragment is sufficient to warrant surgical intervention to ensure the long-term function of his finger," Crows science and medical services coordinator Steve Saunders said.'

(afl.com.au)

[K]

The concussion class action that could punch a hole in the AFL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-concussion-class-action-that-could-punch-a-hole-in-the-afl-20190311-p513ay.html

" It's a Friday night game in the South Australian National Football League (SANFL), and commercial lawyer Greg Griffin is among a crowd of a few thousand swilling Coopers Ale and scarfing Vili's Pies.

... He has been a wily player agent for decades, helped establish the SANFL Players Association, and until recently was the dial-a-quote chairman of A-League soccer team Adelaide United.

Now, though, Griffin is angling to become a thorn in the side of the Australian Football League, this time representing ex-players – including a premiership ruckman, a Brownlow Medal-winning rover, and the man who once plucked what is commonly called "The Mark of the Century" – who are dealing with crippling memory loss, frightening mood swings and despairing cognitive issues they attribute to repeated concussions suffered throughout their careers.

A lawsuit could be filed as soon as this winter, he says, which will allege that the AFL breached its duty of care by allowing players to routinely return to the field on the same day after suffering a serious hit, and almost always play again the week after such hits, leading to the devastating maladies they now endure.
...

Roughly five dozen concussions are recorded every season... Not only that, but the list of young players cutting their careers short after being hit in the head too hard or too often (or both) continues to mount. ...

In November 2017, he began building a Federal Court action, and the stories of the plaintiffs – from their playing days in the 1990s to their lives now – were trickle-fed to media. ...

Yet the concussion conundrum is not so simple. Experts in neuroscience, sports law, AFL administrators, club doctors, former players and union officials mostly agree that the science behind this issue is far from settled, while the medico-legal complexities remain unexplored. "There's so much we don't know – so many questions we have to answer," says neuroscientist Dr Alan Pearce, who discovered cognitive impairments in the likes of Barnes, Platten and Smith, and dozens more, almost a decade ago, and has since seen the concussion discussion see-saw wildly between secrecy and hyperbole, sensationalism and denial. "Uncertainty – it's driving this vast difference of opinion," he sighs. "I just wish we had more people talking."
...

And the game has changed, in particular in the past decade, as the AFL began instituting a series of rolling improvements in both playing rules and the strictures for treating heavy hits. In 2008, the league codified the way players need to be assessed after head knocks. In 2009 and 2010, and a handful more times since, they tweaked the laws of the game, curtailing reckless high bumps and potentially dangerous tackles. ...

... On the bench, clubs have access to the HawkEye sideline vision system, so doctors can replay any blow, from seven different camera angles, on a touch-screen tablet. This coming season, "spotters" will be employed by the AFL to scan vision as games unfold, looking for potential "concussional events".

The case that the AFL must answer, then, relates to what happened before all that, in the time of biffs, bumps and brawlers...
...

It's not the only piece of evidence suggesting CTE might not pose an existential threat to Aussie Rules. Hannah Blaine is a neuropsychologist working with children ..., but in 2013 she was a master's student under Melbourne University's Michael Saling, when she began a 25-year follow-up with a portion of his initial sample of players. ... Blaine had them pushing buttons on reaction-time machines.

Yet the ex-players tracked well – within normal limits. The one who performed best had reported 20 concussions throughout his career. Within certain circles, the preliminary findings were unwelcome. Saling and Blaine remember presenting them to the International Neuropsychological Society in 2015, at a Sydney hotel. The conference room was consumed by immediate anger. Outrage. A group of North American researchers mocked the work because two members of the original sample weren't re-tested.

"I've never seen anything like it at a scientific meeting," says Saling. "One young scientist got up and began to scream that this was all invalid and incompetent."
...

When it comes to concussion and the court of public opinion, the AFL does itself no favours. ...

Then there is the AFL's longstanding relationship with associate professor Paul McCrory, an eminent neurologist and member of the league's Concussion Working Group. McCrory was once the Collingwood Football Club doctor and has consulted on medical policy issues for seemingly every big sporting organisation in the world (AFL, NRL, NFL and so on). He doesn't speak to the media, but a sense of his position – or scepticism – can be gleaned from a presentation he made in 2016, The Concussion 'Crisis' – Media, Myths and Medicine. Delivered to colleagues at Melbourne's Florey Institute of Neuroscience and Mental Health, where he is a fellow (and which also offered no comment), McCrory barely hides his contempt for the way the concussion story has unfolded in public. He dismisses the NFL's catastrophic concussion problem as "carry-on and hoo-ha". He lists characteristics that many experts include in their definition of concussion, such as the shearing of brain cells, then waves them away: "None of that occurs."
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... Boston University's Dr Robert Cantu, the foremost "return to play" expert in the world, is a founding member of that group, and not at all favourably disposed towards its leader. "I am amazed, quite frankly, at his traction within the academic community of Australia," Cantu says. "He is dragging the feet of science in terms of connecting the dots, in my opinion."

Adelaide lawyer Greg Griffin is blunter still: "I refer to him as head spokesman for the Flat Earth Society." "

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https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-19/the-full-afl-injury-list-round-one

COLLINGWOOD

Jaidyn Stephenson - Groin (TEST) (Last week listed as Available)

Jordan De Goey - Foot (TEST) (Last week listed as Available)

Tom Langdon - Concussion (TEST)

Tim Broomhead - Leg (1-2 weeks) (The same as last week)

Lynden Dunn - Knee (2-3 weeks) (This has gone up from 1-2 from last week)

Daniel Wells - Foot (2-3 weeks) (This has gone up from 1-2 from last week)

Will Hoskin-Elliott - Knee (1-2 weeks)

Taylor Adams - Finger (2-3 weeks)

Ben Reid - Quad (TBC) (Still TBC from last week)

Matt Scharenberg - Knee (Indefinite)

[Johnno75]

Where’s our man Walshy. He will give us the numbers and we will double down.

[K]

[Rd10.1998_11.1#36]

Turkish: What's happening with them sausages, Charlie?

Sausage Charlie: Five minutes, Turkish.

Turkish: It was two minutes five minutes ago.

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[K]

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[BazBoy]

Injuries—-how do they impact a side well something to consider

2010 we had absolute minimum injuries (if you compare our recent seasons)

We nailed the big one

Richmond likewise for 2017/8 they nailed one 2017 and went deep in 2018

5 times all Australian Rance must be a small chink

Is the injuries to prime players the ingredient that derail,s a side

[Pies2016]