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dalyc 
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I watched the replay today after reading some of the comments about the bias of the commentators. Well, what a bunch of sooks we’ve got masquerading as Pies supporters. I thought the call was mostly even handed though there was an understandable empathy at the end for a team that had fought very hard and probably don’t deserve to be 0-7.
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| dalyc wrote: | | I watched the replay today after reading some of the comments about the bias of the commentators. Well, what a bunch of sooks we’ve got masquerading as Pies supporters. I thought the call was mostly even handed though there was an understandable empathy at the end for a team that had fought very hard and probably don’t deserve to be 0-7. |
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| BazBoy wrote: | Our kicking in general for goal has been pretty good
R 1. 9. 13
R 2. 12.7
R 3. 16.4
R 4. 16.10
R 5. 14.17
R 6. 10.10
R 7. 18. 6 |
^ R7 we kicked 19.7. Lions kicked 18.6
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| RudeBoy wrote: | I'm a longstanding supporter of Bucks and am convinced he'll deliver us another Premiership very soon. However, I wish he was a little more positive in his post match comments, particularly in regards to a kid like De Goey, who was battered from pillar to post pre-season. In his post match summary, it seemed like Bucks didn't want to say Jordy played a great game. Obviously none of us know what is said privately between player and coach, but in the public arena, players should be acknowledged when they play a great game imo. But that's just me I guess.  |
Contract talks going on, admitting a ripper of a game might add 10k to his contract  |
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MightyMagpie
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | I'm a longstanding supporter of Bucks and am convinced he'll deliver us another Premiership very soon. However, I wish he was a little more positive in his post match comments, particularly in regards to a kid like De Goey, who was battered from pillar to post pre-season. In his post match summary, it seemed like Bucks didn't want to say Jordy played a great game. Obviously none of us know what is said privately between player and coach, but in the public arena, players should be acknowledged when they play a great game imo. But that's just me I guess. |
Rudey - I took Bucks’ comments as meaning De Goey is capable of this (in a forward role) and a challenge to him to lift to this standard every week (consistency - he was quiet last week for eg). He also noted he won’t always be forward as he will be needed as a bullocking mid. Given his contract situation I think we can expect some great output from him this season.
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| BazBoy wrote: | Our kicking in general for goal has been pretty good
R 1. 9. 13
R 2. 12.7
R 3. 16.4
R 4. 16.10
R 5. 14.17
R 6. 10.10
R 7. 18. 6 |
That’s a healthy ratio. Could be number of factors.
- We are definitely getting deeper entries compared to previous years.
- We seem to be opening up the middle forward of centre a bit better too
- I also think our new deep forwards are generally all pretty reliable shots on goal. Stephenson. W H E , DeGoey and Thomas ( resting ) are all solid set shots. It’s a good feeling when these guys have ball in hand. I want to add Cox but he has missed his share so far this season. |
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K
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I'd like to see the set-shot info.
Against Essendon (and Richmond), it was dismal. |
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piedys 
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| foreigner wrote: | | BazBoy wrote: | Our kicking in general for goal has been pretty good
R 1. 9. 13
R 2. 12.7
R 3. 16.4
R 4. 16.10
R 5. 14.17
R 6. 10.10
R 7. 18. 6 |
^ R7 we kicked 19.7. Lions kicked 18.6 |
Here's some quirky trivia for you; Brisvegas kicked the third highest score of all 18 teams this round. And still lost. Bwahahahahahaha!!!!
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| K wrote: | I'd like to see the set-shot info.
Against Essendon (and Richmond), it was dismal. |
On quick inspection, it looks like Crocker has been our worst converter for goal / point ratio. In fairness, he has played high half forward but it does add weight to comments that he needs to do more with the opportunities he creates. |
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AN_Inkling
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | I'm a longstanding supporter of Bucks and am convinced he'll deliver us another Premiership very soon. However, I wish he was a little more positive in his post match comments, particularly in regards to a kid like De Goey, who was battered from pillar to post pre-season. In his post match summary, it seemed like Bucks didn't want to say Jordy played a great game. Obviously none of us know what is said privately between player and coach, but in the public arena, players should be acknowledged when they play a great game imo. But that's just me I guess. |
From worst on field (or close enough to) to best on field (or close enough to) the week after. I'd not be getting too carried away either.
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RudeBoy
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | I'm a longstanding supporter of Bucks and am convinced he'll deliver us another Premiership very soon. However, I wish he was a little more positive in his post match comments, particularly in regards to a kid like De Goey, who was battered from pillar to post pre-season. In his post match summary, it seemed like Bucks didn't want to say Jordy played a great game. Obviously none of us know what is said privately between player and coach, but in the public arena, players should be acknowledged when they play a great game imo. But that's just me I guess. |
From worst on field (or close enough to) to best on field (or close enough to) the week after. I'd not be getting too carried away either. |
I'm just not into mind games. I think it damages trust. When a player has won the game with 5 goal haul like Jordy did, he should be publicly applauded. When he plays a shit game like last week, he should be privately told to lift his game. That's not getting carried away, that's telling it like it is. |
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| dalyc wrote: | | I watched the replay today after reading some of the comments about the bias of the commentators. Well, what a bunch of sooks we’ve got masquerading as Pies supporters. I thought the call was mostly even handed though there was an understandable empathy at the end for a team that had fought very hard and probably don’t deserve to be 0-7. |
You weren't watching the game live then?  If that is the case, I question whether you are in a position to call some of us sooks masquerading as Collingwood supporters.
When the game is live and you are on the edge of your set, NOT knowing the eventual outcome (as you apparently had the luxury of when you watched it) and you are indeed a dedicated Pies supporter, the emotion of the moment is intense. Have you ever experienced this??
If, while all this is happening, you have a commentator who is excitedly and continually talking up the efforts of your opposition, any person not made of stone would be inclined to get pissed off with that commentator, when they are meant to be giving an unbiased description of the game. |
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K
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | However, I wish he was a little more positive in his post match comments, particularly in regards to a kid like De Goey, ... In his post match summary, it seemed like Bucks didn't want to say Jordy played a great game. ... |
From worst on field (or close enough to) to best on field (or close enough to) the week after. I'd not be getting too carried away either. |
I'm just not into mind games. I think it damages trust. When a player has won the game with 5 goal haul like Jordy did, he should be publicly applauded. When he plays a shit game like last week, he should be privately told to lift his game. That's not getting carried away, that's telling it like it is. |
Well, it appears that one coach gave JDG 4 votes, the other 2. Maybe it was Buckley who gave him 2. Maybe you rate JDG's game more highly than the coach and he's telling it like it is to him. |
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dalyc
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| PyreneesPie wrote: | | dalyc wrote: | | I watched the replay today after reading some of the comments about the bias of the commentators. Well, what a bunch of sooks we’ve got masquerading as Pies supporters. I thought the call was mostly even handed though there was an understandable empathy at the end for a team that had fought very hard and probably don’t deserve to be 0-7. |
You weren't watching the game live then? If that is the case, I question whether you are in a position to call some of us sooks masquerading as Collingwood supporters.
When the game is live and you are on the edge of your set, NOT knowing the eventual outcome (as you apparently had the luxury of when you watched it) and you are indeed a dedicated Pies supporter, the emotion of the moment is intense. Have you ever experienced this??
If, while all this is happening, you have a commentator who is excitedly and continually talking up the efforts of your opposition, any person not made of stone would be inclined to get pissed off with that commentator, when they are meant to be giving an unbiased description of the game. |
I went to the Gabba to see it live.
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | I'm a longstanding supporter of Bucks and am convinced he'll deliver us another Premiership very soon. However, I wish he was a little more positive in his post match comments, particularly in regards to a kid like De Goey, who was battered from pillar to post pre-season. In his post match summary, it seemed like Bucks didn't want to say Jordy played a great game. Obviously none of us know what is said privately between player and coach, but in the public arena, players should be acknowledged when they play a great game imo. But that's just me I guess. |
From worst on field (or close enough to) to best on field (or close enough to) the week after. I'd not be getting too carried away either. |
I'm just not into mind games. I think it damages trust. When a player has won the game with 5 goal haul like Jordy did, he should be publicly applauded. When he plays a shit game like last week, he should be privately told to lift his game. That's not getting carried away, that's telling it like it is. |
It's a tough one RudeBoy. I'm inclined to agree with you that Bucks could have been a bit more animated publicly about Jordan's great display. It was certainly worth the coach's praise. On the other hand, Bucks may have set him the goal of playing well consistently and in his (Buck's) view, the job has not yet been done and public plaudits are not quite yet due?
There was one football identity who sang his praises tonight. Jordy was the "Monday hero" for Robbo on AFL 360!! So he didn't miss out entirely on collecting some credit for his performance.  |
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