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A spray bottle of perfume can be very effective if sprayed into the eyes, buy you at least 5 seconds to make a break.

Otherwise, it's easy to make up an ethanol based chili oil spray and put it in a small squirt bottle.

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Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.

Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.

By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.

In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.

Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.

This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.

While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.

For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.

For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.

It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.

It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.

To hate is easy.

To show empathy takes courage.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:06 pm
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An uninterruptible rape alarm is a better bet. Chili spray can easily be turned against you if you do not hit it perfectly first time.
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David wrote:
I think you’re spot on, Chris – I walk home by myself at night all the time, and while I’ve felt unsafe in the past, it’s been nothing like on that level. I think as men this is all pretty abstract to us. I hate the fact that my mere gender could make somebody else fearful if walking in a dark or secluded place, but what can be done about it? I’m sure a great number of young women in Melbourne are thinking right now “it could have been me”. In that way, an attack like this feels like terrorism, in terms of effect if not intent.

It’s also worth remembering how uncommon random attacks like these are in the broader scheme of things, though – the vast majority of sexual assaults are still carried out by acquaintances, spouses and family members behind closed doors. Street attacks like these are terrifying, but the chance of it happening is still very low, I’m guessing substantially lower than being hit by a drunk driver.

I don’t actually disagree with your point above, Wokko – I don’t think people should be able to carry lethal weapons like knives for self-defence, but I can’t see why something non-lethal like pepper spray should be unlawful – something like that would surely save lives.

It’s a bit morbid, I know, but do we know how she was killed?


It would also make it far easier for people to become victims also.

Spray in the eye. Take your wallet.

Spray in the eye. Take your phone.

Spray in the eye. Take your car.

Spray in the eye. Rob your house.

Spray in the eye. Assault.

Spray in the eye. Rape.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:17 pm
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Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.

Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.

By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.

In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.

Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.

This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.

While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.

For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.

For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.

It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.

It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.

To hate is easy.

To show empathy takes courage.

One can, of course, also have considerable empathy AND want him jailed for life, if he’s guilty.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:30 pm
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Swoop, I think you and I are on a similar page here. I also agree with P4S. A woman is dead.

These things don't happen because all men are neanderthals who don't understand that rape is wrong, nor is the perpetrator always some evil monster,

He is, however, if guilty, a murderer and rapist and therefore deserves punishment and incarceration. While I can potentially have some empathy for him, I have a hell of a lot more for Eurydice and her family.

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swoop42 wrote:
Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.

Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.

By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.

In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.

Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.

This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.

While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.

For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.

For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.

It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.

It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.

To hate is easy.

To show empathy takes courage.


A nice post, Swoop, which makes many good points, even if I disagree with its conclusions.

I don’t know anything about the individual who committed this terrible, terrible crime, and we should be wary of leaping to the idea that autism makes people inclined to commit such acts. However, I would guess that he too is now looking at the wreckage of a life that lies bleakly before him because of a moment, and motives, that he probably only half-understood himself, at the time. And then, of course, there is the anguish and shame which his parents presumably feel. It is very sad on so many levels, and there are no winners, here.

Where I part company with your post is in recognizing that, in the end, he chose to rape and murder an innocent young woman to gratify his lust. And ultimately, whatever reasons may lie behind his action, that young woman died wretchedly because he considered her life disposable against his desires. Ultimately, God (if he exists) may forgive, her parents may or may not forgive, but society can only regard his act as worthy of clinical punishment to discourage others, to set a standard for how we can live together, and to express our repugnance at the act and the perpetrator’s revolting decision.

I believe, deep in my heart, that people with diminished moral sense feel that crime, even murder, is not as grave as it used to be, when the justice system spends so much time finding excuses for the perpetrator, rather than than seeking stern justice for the victim. And so these cases, once vanishingly rare, are now part of the routine of years.

Even while I feel sorry for him, I would hang him if he is found guilty. Life is paradoxical, and often painful measures are the kindest, in the long run.

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swoop42 wrote:
Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.

Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.

By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.

In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.

Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.

This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.

While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.

For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.

For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.

It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.

It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.

To hate is easy.

To show empathy takes courage.

One can, of course, also have considerable empathy AND want him jailed for life, if he’s guilty.


You deciding he warrants a life sentence if found guilty without knowing any of the facts shows a complete lack of empathy.

Hopefully the judge is strong enough to take all his situation into account and not just take the easy route of placating the opportunistic politicians or the old testament brigade if a reduction in sentencing is warranted.

We are all filled with light and shade and are the sum of our life experiences at the point an offence is committed and it's why the independence of the judiciary should never be watered down by the politicians of the day introducing mandatory sentencing rules and the like.

Every person found guilty in a court of law should be treated as an individual and there personal circumstance taken into account when sentencing.

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“We are all filled with light and shade”. But we are not likely to rape and murder a young girl for our own joy. That’s not “shade” : it’s an abomination. There really isn’t any excuse for it.
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Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.


I think the uncomfortable lesson in the wake of #metoo (and particularly what happened with that Aziz Ansari guy, among many other examples) is that society is filled with plenty of men who might respect women and not bear anyone any malice but who still might once or twice keep going with sex when a woman is indicating she doesn't want it, or make a co-worker feel uncomfortable through sexual harassment, or get handsy in a bar while intoxicated. All of that is a world away from raping and murdering a stranger in a public place, but the feminist argument is that it's all just the thin edge of a wedge – if you have a culture in which the concept of consent isn't adequately understood or valued, then you'll get a whole continuum of behaviour from unwanted groping to, in rare cases, a vicious rape that leaves the victim dead. I think that's a discussion that needs to be taken seriously.

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Pies4shaw wrote:
swoop42 wrote:
Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.

Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.

By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.

In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.

Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.

This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.

While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.

For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.

For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.

It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.

It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.

To hate is easy.

To show empathy takes courage.

One can, of course, also have considerable empathy AND want him jailed for life, if he’s guilty.


You deciding he warrants a life sentence if found guilty without knowing any of the facts shows a complete lack of empathy.

Hopefully the judge is strong enough to take all his situation into account and not just take the easy route of placating the opportunistic politicians or the old testament brigade if a reduction in sentencing is warranted.

We are all filled with light and shade and are the sum of our life experiences at the point an offence is committed and it's why the independence of the judiciary should never be watered down by the politicians of the day introducing mandatory sentencing rules and the like.

Every person found guilty in a court of law should be treated as an individual and there personal circumstance taken into account when sentencing.

I wasn't referring to myself in the third person, there - and I wasn't expressing any view about sentence. Pa Marmo's Magic Fairy forbid, after my 37,000 threads in this forum in the last decade trying to discourage people from pre-judging all sorts of cases.

My point was that it is possible to have all the concern and care in the world for a troubled person who does a terrible thing and still think that a very lengthy (or even permanent) prison term is warranted.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
swoop42 wrote:
Two lives have been ruined here.

The young victim and the young 19 year old perpetrator.

It might be hard for some of the fire and brimstone types on here to grasp but people are complex and to the family and friends of the perpetrator he is most likely far from the monster he'll be made out to be by the opportunistic politicians and media.

Hell if anyone of us knew him I'm sure he has many likeable qualities and his actions have likely come as a complete shock to those who love him.

As mentioned above this whole notion that there are a swathe of men in society who believe it's okay to harm someone just because they're female is just nonsense fueled seemingly by militant feminism and again opportunistic politicians.

Of course there are some men who would only ever emotionally or physically assault a woman and wouldn't dare act in the same way against another male but these would be a minority and I'd imagine those prone to violent behaviour are equally capable of producing it against either sex.

By far the biggest victims of male violence would be other men I would have imagined and yet this is conveniently overlooked because it doesn't suit the narrative.

In instances of male on male violence just like assaults against women they aren't fueled by a simple belief that it's an acceptable behaviour though they are fueled by the social choices on the day of drinking alcohol or taking drugs or life situations like poverty and a dysfunctional family upbringing.

Mental health issues would also be a major cause whether due to childhood exposures or brain impairments from birth.

This whole belief that rape is always about power is misguided in my opinion also.

While I can totally accept that power is a primary motive in the common scenario of a male who is already in a relationship, has a history of sexual partners or has little difficulty in socialising with women there are other young men however who feel marginalised whether by learning disability, social standing, appearance, mental illness or a general shyness, anxiety or lack of self esteem when interacting with the opposite sex.

For these young men a feeling of loneliness, despair and a burgeoning sex drive can be a dangerous mix and in some instances can lead to actions not in line with the person they ever thought capable of being.

For me this is what has most likely happened here and we have a young man on the autism spectrum, one who most likely has a reduced learning capacity, who struggles to pick up on social cues of others and engage with people but one who motivated by a want to belong, to feel connected to a woman and the physical desires that come with being 19 made decisions that spiraled out of control and it lead to shocking consequences.

It is very easy to look at his actions in isolation on that night and label him a monster.

It takes compassion to see the person behind the crime, to realise that what lead up to that one single horrific moment is a complex web of life experience and he should be judged on all the circumstances of his situation.

To hate is easy.

To show empathy takes courage.

One can, of course, also have considerable empathy AND want him jailed for life, if he’s guilty.


Yup not worth the risk he would attack someone else.

And if he doesnt have the capacity to control himself maybe he should not have been out on his own. I’ll save my empathy and compassion for the victim and her family, she died a terrible death, scared probably in pain, and violated too. And he4 family have t9 live with that knowledge.

He chose his destiny.

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https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/why-arent-men-warned-about-violence-like-women-are/news-story/a806d6746d9c1dc9300f9ca2e4aa259c

Just a quick link to a story showing men are far more likely to experience random violence than women. Everyone should be watchful and cautious. I've twice had someone try and unsuccessfully mug me in Melbourne, totally random and luckily they weren't carrying weapons, just trying to intimidate but this stuff happens very frequently.

As for not allowing people to carry weapons because they can be used by criminals; criminals are already carrying and using weapons. The playing field between victim and predator needs to be evened up.
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More likely to be a victim of random violence, yes I agree, not more likely to be a victim of rape/violence, or domestic violence.
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