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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:33 pm
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They'll change the ruck rule again when Grundy starts absolutely monstering the centre bounces and ball ups.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:25 pm
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Thanks Stinger.

Can't play without sucking on a water bottle every 10 minutes? FFS, what sooks they are. It's only 20 minutes for the love of Mike, and if they are distressed then they should come to the bench in any case. Or maybe stick a water bottle and some play lunch down their socks. At very least, water carriers should be required to stay outside the boundary.

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Johnno75 



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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 12:19 am
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How are we going 8 rounds in.

No runners unless after a goal and now it’s become farcical with boards going up from both teams letting everybody know how long to go.

9.41 to go today after the McGovern goal I could have sworn the umpires gave Carlton a 2nd warning (after their early warning in the 1st qtr) for starting positions when Ed Curnow was told to move, why no free?

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AN_Inkling 



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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 12:32 am
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The rule changes have been a definite failure so far. Their purpose was to increase scoring and "look" of the game. They've not done the former and I don't think the latter either.

And 6-6-6 at the end of games is dumb. Sure, it gives the trailing team more chance of winning, but I doubt that's actually a good thing. It's legitimate and fair for a leading team to go defensive late.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 12:33 am
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Yes they defnitely got a 2nd warningi. 1t was too many players ini their forward line, the other too many players in their backline. What kind of professioinial sport is this, where you get "warnings" for breakinig the rules.
Farcical, AFL.


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Johnno75 



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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:01 am
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They can exploit the rules due to the warning but umpires don’t even remember when they gave a warning then give a 2nd. Sure it was Ed Curnow both times. We got pulled up for having 3 at a centre bounce but it was our official warning.
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K 



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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:00 am
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AN_Inkling wrote:
The rule changes have been a definite failure so far. Their purpose was to increase scoring and "look" of the game. They've not done the former and I don't think the latter either.

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Leigh Matthews disagrees.

bally12 wrote:
... What kind of professioinial sport is this, where you get "warnings" for breaking the rules.
Farcical, AFL.

Warnings were supposed to be a temporary thing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 12:25 pm
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Pyke says six-six-six rule has reduced scoring and free-flowing footy

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pyke-says-six-six-six-rule-has-reduced-scoring-and-free-flowing-footy-20190512-p51mgg.html


(Not that I trust anything Pyke says.)
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AN_Inkling 



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:02 pm
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K wrote:
AN_Inkling wrote:
The rule changes have been a definite failure so far. Their purpose was to increase scoring and "look" of the game. They've not done the former and I don't think the latter either.

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Leigh Matthews disagrees.

Maybe with the second point, the first is simply a fact, scoring has gone down.

Even if someone disagrees with my second point, and believe that the "look" of the game has improved, is it reaally worth making such changes for what is a marginal and subjective outcome?

And Pyke may be right, the 6-6-6 could actually be the cause of the reduced scoring. One possible reason is that it's harder for teams to exit their defensive 50 because they don't have loose defenders to assist (this is one of Leigh's theories too). Again, this would be the opposite of the intended outcome. There are certainly a number of half backs whose output is well down. Whether this is the reason, goals from kick ins are down and again the new rules were supposed to increase this. Objective measures show the rules to be a failure so far, all there is to hang onto is subjective "feels".

The big concern is that at year's end they look at the results and decide that the rules will again need to be changed. Just like going back to the old push in the back rule, circles and circles.

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AN_Inkling 



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:12 pm
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And if we're critiquing the new rules: the dumbest is the double 50m rule. 50m penalties are already extreme, 100m penalties are doubly so and if ever applied should be for an extreme act, not a player mistakenly being in a restricted area.

Also, the "look" of this rule in action is utterly ridiculous, so it fails the AFLs second objective.

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Clifton Hill-Billy 



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:24 pm
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100m penalty will be scrapped after it decides a final and people agree that it is a ridiculous penalty for a minor infringement.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:32 pm
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It's an extremely harsh penalty... but it's the players' job to know the rules. If they knew the rules, we wouldn't be talking about this one.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:37 pm
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It's the worst rule IMO.
I've been saying for ages, bring back the 15m penalty and only award a 50m penalty for something serious (reportable incident, severe umpire/player abuse).

A double 50 is ridiculous.

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AN_Inkling 



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:38 pm
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Players will make mistakes, it's the AFL's responsibility not to have garbage rules and this is one of them. The look of a player intentionally slowing down in order to bait an opponent into infringing is far worse than runners on the field, congestion or any other thing the AFL were trying to "clean up".

I agree that it will be scrapped if it's infringed too often.

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K 



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:40 pm
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The players all know a teammate downfield has to take the marking duties. What Flip did was a bit daft.

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