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Monco Matt
Do it to THEM before THEY do it to YOU
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Location: Sittin, Drinkin, Reloadin & Waitin
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Why does our club have such a hard time winning grand finals?
We seem to lose them in every which way imaginable. By large margins, small margins, as the favourite, as the underdog, with a strong team, with a grunt team, against Vic clubs, against interstate clubs, with adversity or with everything in sync, by heading in with great form or falling in. No matter what the situation going in to the games we continue to lose these things. Even 2010 needed a lucky bounce to save us, we were on the ropes in that game too.
Yesterday we were the favoured team, just beat the reigning premier, had a close to full list (as close as any team can get really), were in form and confident, had home ground and home town advantage, majority crowd support, an 8-day break, a five goal head start in the game and still managed to find a way to lose. What club on the planet can achieve these types of results? If we cannot win with all that going for us when can we ever feel confident in a grand final again?
Why does our club have such a hard time winning grand finals?
Are there things going on inside the four wall of the club during GF week that affects every playing group throughout our history? Are we always over-confident, arrogant, cocky within, or do we just simply not have that ruthless attitude on game day? IDK. Any ideas? _________________ RED "BABY" CAVANAUGH: Didn't hear what the bet was.
MONCO: Your life. |
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Brian from Mulgrave
brian from mulgrave
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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I asked Darren Jolly who played for Melbourne Sydney and Collingwood which jumper was the hardest to get a free kick in ? He said collingwood by a mile .
Would you want to be an umpire who gave collingwood a free kick to win a grand final ? The person would be banished from australia ,\. |
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Raw Hammer
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Location: The Gutter
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Since 2001, nearly all teams that have made multiple Grand Finals have won Multiple flags, but not us:
Haw 4-1 (80%)
Bris 3-1 (75%)
Geel 3-1 (75%)
WC 2-2 (50%)
Syd 2-3 (40%)
Port 1-1 (50%)
Coll 1-4 (20%)*
StK 0-2 (0%)**
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WB 1-0 (100%)
Rich 1-0 (100%)
Adel 0-1 (0%)
* Draw then W
** Draw then L _________________ Est. 2002 |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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Interesting rationalization. I am inspired by HAL. |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
Joined: 29 May 2006
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We'll never know so don't do your head in thinking about it. If it were the same players who featured in every loss we might have an answer but obviously it's not.
I think that we more often than not play a side that is actually better than us. We probably make more Grand Finals than we should, with great help from our massive support base. It can help make a difference during the h & a but not in a GF. _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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masoncox
masoncox
Joined: 31 Aug 2015
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I felt shattered all last week.
It was i feared another lost gf.
I cannot take it anymore.
It is beyond belief.
Beyond a fair statistical event.
In statistics we would call us an outlier.
One that is not considered.
A blimp, an aberration....one that should not be counted
because it is so outside the norm.
And this is what we are.
But it is the supporters who must bear this cross.
It is no coincidence that we have our roots in Irish catholic tradition.
Where they endure pain and suffering for their religion.
It is where we now endure pain and suffering for our religion thru our tribe the CFC.
Last edited by masoncox on Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:47 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
Joined: 29 May 2006
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Something sadly and eerily similar to another team I follow, in another sport. Italian club Juventus, who are a national giant, the most supported club in Italy and also wear the black and white. In 9 title appearances in European cup - Champions League since 1958, they have won only 2 titles. Tell me that isn't freaky!
This isn't just a Collingwood phenomenon. Is it a black and white thing _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Location: We prefer free speech - you know it's right
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Because we're not ruthless, plain and simple _________________ All Aboard!! Choo Choo!!! |
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Damien
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999 Location: Croydon Vic
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote: | Because we're not ruthless, plain and simple |
Crap. _________________ 'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
The Herald - 1930 |
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Location: We prefer free speech - you know it's right
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Damien wrote: | The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote: | Because we're not ruthless, plain and simple |
Crap. |
My sentiments exactly. _________________ All Aboard!! Choo Choo!!! |
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ANNODAM
Rebel Heart Tour - The Forum, Los Angeles 27/10/2015.
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Location: Eltham, VIC.
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If Maynard wasn't wearing a COLL jumper, he would've had the ball...
Guaranteed! _________________ WE WERE ROBBED, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MEEE!
N.Y METS, N.Y GIANTS, PENRITH PANTHERS & HOBART HURRICANES FAN.
WE ALL LOOK GOOD AT TRAINING, IT'S THE MATCHES THAT COUNT! |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Umpires Hate Us _________________ I am Da Man |
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Bruce Gonsalves
Joined: 05 Jul 2012
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One of Collingwoods' motto's is 'Us against them', unfortunately umpires fall within the 'them' category when it really counts. |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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Everyone will have a different take on this but for every grand final we might believe we should have won, I would suggest that were just as many GFs we played in where we really weren’t the best side over that season. However, we would continually show heaps of character and determination just to will ourselves onto a Grannie.
This year was one of those years. We weren’t the best side over the course of the season but we willed ourselves into a GF. In the end, for whatever reason, it proved to be a bridge to far against a very good footy team.
There’s success and there’s ultimate success. By any definition this was a successful year and I’m proud of of their performances. |
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Deja Vu
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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We are the best at finishing 2nd. Which means we are the worlds best losers.
27 GF losses!!! Or is it 28 now. **** me I’ve lost count.
It’s our brand. We overachieve to get there, and screw it up on the day. We actually find new and inventive ways to lose.
Even when we win we can’t do it normally. We had the best team by far in 2010 and but for a lucky bounce of the ball...
We are haunted. Jinxed. Cursed.
We are Collingwood. _________________ http://youtu.be/hvtdbfI1sqQ |
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