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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:13 pm
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"The 30-year-old and his team have 72 hours after a verdict is handed down to request an appeal, which would have to be heard by an entirely new panel."
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:00 am
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"The dual international reportedly rejected a $1 million offer to walk away before the hearing began on Saturday..." (AAP)


If RA offered a $1 million settlement, we should assume they think the case could cost them much more than a million dollars. I guess that matches what NewsCorp reported earlier ("News Corp reported that Rugby Australia has calculated the prospect of paying Folau a $2 million severance, in the case of a looming legal defeat.")
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 2:52 am
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Folau 'shouldn't suffer an employment penalty' for views, Shorten says

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-election-2019/folau-shouldn-t-suffer-an-employment-penalty-for-views-shorten-says-20190508-p51lgf.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:48 am
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'Shorten sits on the fence' would probably be a better headline. But at least the Labor leader is entertaining the idea of standing up for labour principles.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 6:58 pm
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^

As an ex union leader he really has to say that, even if he's happy for pre-selected labor candidates to be dis-endorsed for what they wrote on social media because it doesn't sit with the parties values or mainly hinders their chance of getting elected.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:16 am
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D. Kane's take:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-union/an-abhorrent-post-but-proverbial-folau-death-penalty-a-step-too-far-20190510-p51lz0.html


Meanwhile, the tabloid says:

"From the moment Israel Folau sent his infamous Instagram post on April 10, Rugby Australia’s legal bills have now surpassed $300,000."


And MSN says:

"Insiders estimate that Folau has already outlaid in excess of $100,000 on legal representation for his landmark code of conduct hearing, the three-time John Eales Medallist may at some point ask himself if it is all worth it.

It's been suggested Folau would be spending $25,000 a week on solicitor fees, even before stepping inside a hearing room."
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:39 pm
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I thought Leunig was pretty left-wing but the Falou ruckus seems to have even got him worried:

http://leunig.com.au/works/recent-cartoons
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:00 am
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^ Are you aware of his cartoon with two angels talking about wings?

What about "thoughts of a baby in a child-care centre"?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:27 am
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Thanks. Looked up both. I do understand the point you are trying to get across.
The angel one seemed a bit twee. However, I saw it more as a comment on society rather than personal philosophy.
The baby one was quite confronting. I see that he's tried to contextualise it:
https://www.facebook.com/MichaelLeunigAppreciationPage/photos/this-is-a-highly-requested-cartoon-that-i-am-happy-to-post-however-please-note-t/275949669257926/
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:36 pm
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thesoretoothsayer wrote:
I thought Leunig was pretty left-wing but the Falou ruckus seems to have even got him worried:

http://leunig.com.au/works/recent-cartoons


Folaou may have been the catalyst, or may not. It's a broad fairly accurate statement relating to anyone who expresses views that don't conform to the agenda.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:05 am
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"But while the AFL boss essentially endorsed Rugby Australia’s strong stance on values grounds, there is recognition within the AFL and clubs that legal process must be followed when dealing with the relevant player, and that an issue of this kind would be difficult to navigate on a practical level.

While more or less backing Rugby Australia’s stance on Folau ... McLachlan is understood to have questioned how Rugby Australia first handled the Folau issue...

When Folau made his comments and Rugby Australia moved to terminate his contract, there was also a view within the AFL that a moral stand such as rugby’s must be in concert with internal legal process, and that rugby had acted in haste to say Folau would be terminated before the legal position was completely clear."


https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-s-israel-folau-call-footy-may-have-taken-a-hard-line-stance-20190515-p51nsc.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 12:24 pm
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From the article above:

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McLachlan told a meeting of club chief executives late on Tuesday that the AFL’s commitment to inclusion — seen in the league’s display of the LGBTI flag at their headquarters — meant that they would be compelled to take a similar line against a player making the kind of anti-gay comments that have landed Folau in a legal fight to save his Australian rugby career.


Why? Why is it so hard for these suits to comprehend the idea of advocating a value for themselves and simultaneously accepting that not all people within the organisation may hold it? Is it just corporate conformism, or am I missing something that makes this paradigm so seemingly unquestionable?

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:44 pm
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how about the power of sponsorship? and the supporters dollars?
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:07 pm
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Why? Why is it so hard for these suits to comprehend the idea of advocating a value for themselves and simultaneously accepting that not all people within the organisation may hold it?


I'm sure the AFL suits understand the distinction. They also understand the damage that the media mob would unleash upon the AFL "brand" if they did not act.

McLachlan and the AFL would be tarred as homophobes.
Articles would be written about the AFL's callousness toward the gay community.
Activists would tweet about how young gay people were killing themselves because of the AFL's indifference.
For example:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-ve-been-to-hell-already-israel-folau-thanks-to-people-like-you-20190515-p51ng4.html
This article is an attack upon Folau but it's easy to see something similar being deployed against the AFL if they chose not to do the right thing.

It makes good business sense to bow to the mob and sacrifice an employee to save the "brand".
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:52 pm
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Yup, the progressives have done their job well.

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