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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:14 am
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inxs88 wrote:
Raw Hammer wrote:
Looked like he was back on his pre game bong hit ritual.

His lack of urgency and endeavour cost us the first goal in the 2018 GF, and his half-arsed arms stretched out to take that mark inside D50 today that easily got spoiled and ended in a Cripps goal after we’d dominated Carlton for 99% of the last quarter is what keeps me up at night wondering how on earth we’re gonna win a GF with this guy and players of his ilk.

I’ll admit, he’s had a solid year, and nowadays is barely noticed for his usual sleepwalking brain farts cos he’s been solid, but if this junk creeps back into his game then God help us all. Compare his game today to that of Geelong’s defence. It can’t be tolerated.


It's really bizarre. All players make mistakes, however when Tom does, they invariably result in goals. Yes, he is a defender however the general "vagueness and oomphless" efforts like today make me concerned. Not room for him and Scharenberg (if and when he returns)

He's consistently one of our best players and you embarrass yourself a little writing such rubbish. I thought Howe and Greenwood were execrable today - but I didn't feel the need to start threads about them.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:21 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
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... I thought Howe and Greenwood were execrable today - but I didn't feel the need to start threads about them.

There's a need for one Langers thread just so that this topic doesn't infect every single thread like Blair bashing used to.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 am
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^heh
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It's almost as tragic as the idiots who used to whine endlessly about Maxwell - and then he became a premiership captain - largely through his own enormous efforts and leadership - and the whining kind of stopped (but only kind of).

This is the 6th season in succession that the Future Captain has been a starting 22 player every single time he has been half-fit. He has now played 87 games. The only players in the team younger than him today were Callum Brown, Stevo, Phillips, Maynard, Moore and JDG. Despite the fact that Tommy missed over a season of football with a persistent knee injury, not one of them has played as many games as him.

He's a fixture because he is a gun. Just get used to it.
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P4S, no one is doubting he's been a good player for us, but today he had a bad one. Worst on ground for mine, and he was playing on Silvagni.
Provided no run out of defence, looked slow, hardly took a mark, and made 2 or 3 of customary calamitous errors, that resulted in goals to the opposition. 57% disposal efficiency.
So when do you think he will be appointed captain?
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Pies4shaw wrote:
inxs88 wrote:
Raw Hammer wrote:
Looked like he was back on his pre game bong hit ritual.

His lack of urgency and endeavour cost us the first goal in the 2018 GF, and his half-arsed arms stretched out to take that mark inside D50 today that easily got spoiled and ended in a Cripps goal after we’d dominated Carlton for 99% of the last quarter is what keeps me up at night wondering how on earth we’re gonna win a GF with this guy and players of his ilk.

I’ll admit, he’s had a solid year, and nowadays is barely noticed for his usual sleepwalking brain farts cos he’s been solid, but if this junk creeps back into his game then God help us all. Compare his game today to that of Geelong’s defence. It can’t be tolerated.


It's really bizarre. All players make mistakes, however when Tom does, they invariably result in goals. Yes, he is a defender however the general "vagueness and oomphless" efforts like today make me concerned. Not room for him and Scharenberg (if and when he returns)

He's consistently one of our best players and you embarrass yourself a little writing such rubbish. I thought Howe and Greenwood were execrable today - but I didn't feel the need to start threads about them.


Did I start this thread? Did I poo poo his season?

I credited him for being solid this year. I actually undersold him. He’s been very good.

I simply bemoaned his game today and don’t want to see this junk creep back into his game. In previous years it has been a constant of his game. Not so this season, bar today. The thing is, it’s all above the shoulders. It takes no skill or talent to switch on and play with aggression and urgency at all times. I hope today was a 2019 anomaly because it directly costs goals at that end of the ground.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:17 am
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I wasn't responding to your post. Have another look.
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Wasn't his best game, no doubt. Reid, Roughead and Wills also struggled, to name a few. Others had poor games but came alive in the end. I doubt Langdon will be dropped on the basis of today
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Yes, Langdon had a howler. Is that worthy of its own thread? Not unless you had an agenda. I didn't see you start too many threads when he was clearly our best defender and often out sized by his opponent? You put out some good stuff but this one's as much a shocker as Tommys game yesterday Razz
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:01 pm
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He has plenty of credits in the bank and as a very late pick in the draft, he has already carved out a footy career way better than most.
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First Carlton goal - Greenwood runs past the ball, Langdon cleans up for him and handballs to him over the top, in the clear. Unfortunately, Howe thinks it might be funny to intercept the handball and knock it down Curnow and then fall over in the goal square. Some might put that goal down to Greenwood's poor ball-skills or Howe's appalling lack of awareness. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Second Carlton goal - Long kick down the middle to Curnow. Howe misses the punch. WHE would have had it at the fall of the ball. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Third Carlton goal - Moore gets beaten by McGovern. Howe falls over to create a two on one, allowing his man, Silvagni, to run clear and take the handball and put a dinky pass to Gibbons, who marks unopposed between Greenwood and WHE. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Fourth Carlton goal - Greenwood gets outmarked by Dow (!!!) who runs clear and kicks long to McGovern. Langdon spoils him. The ball comes to ground, where Cripps is running unopposed, thirty metres from goal (thanks Reidy for trying to chase him - God knows where his man was). There is a chain of quick possessions by Carlton - for unfathomable reasons, Langdon keeps chasing, all the way to the goal square, where the ball finally comes to Silvagni at the end of a 5 on 1. Our midfield was apparently working to rule. Moore and Pendlebury also make a bee-line for the goal square, where they don't tackle anyone, either. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Fifth Carlton goal - Roughead and Howe get beaten by McGovern in the air in a two on two. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Second half:

Sixth Carlton goal - Howe lets Silvagni break his tackle. The ball goes to McGovern. Roughhead impersonates a witch's hat in the goal square. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Seventh Carlton goal - Setterfield gets the ball and kicks it to Curnow, who pushes Moore in the middle of the back with both hands to take the mark unopposed. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Eighth Carlton goal - Crisp, running clear at half back, makes a mistake, grubbing a kick to a Carlton player, with Collingwood streaming forward.
Silvagni runs away from Greenwood and gives it to Cunningham, who is still free from Crisp after the turnover. Sidebottom stands the mark and can be clearly seen gesticulating at Crisp and saying "WTF was that?" Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Ninth Carlton goal - Ed (!!!) Curnow outmarks Phillips on the Members' wing.
The ball is kicked down to a contest and Roughead is outmarked by MacKay. Moore decides that standing the mark is an unnecessary waste of a good footballer and lets him run through and kick the goal from 50, when he should have been kicking from 55 or 60 (and not on the run). Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Wait for it - with over half the third quarter already gone, Langdon is outmarked one on one by McGovern. He is 60 metres from goal. Langdon stands the mark precisely (as to which, compare Carlton's ninth goal). Nothing comes of it because the chain ends with an intercept mark. Langdon was, of course, too slow to run back from the mark to take the intercept. He left his cape at home in the dryer.

Tenth Carlton goal - Mayne decides it would be really sensible to handball straight towards Carlton's goal from CHB. He neatly picks out Cunningham who handballs out to Murphy. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Eleventh Carlton goal - This is the one that you all noticed. Greenwood has followed his man to our half-forward line. Why is anybody's guess because he can't catch him, even down there, in a pack. Grundy is tackled. Dow is somehow ten yards clear of Treloar, who still has chase-a-phobia, and runs away with the spillage. He kicks long, Langdon tries to take a chest mark (which he shouldn't have done) but Silvagni spoils. He beats Silvagni pointless on the ground and knocks the ball forward. Crisp misses the tackle on Cunningham. The ball comes out to Cripps who - as part of our affirmative action plan - is again running unmarked at goal. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Twelfth Carlton goal - Phillips gives away 47 50-metre penalties in a row.
Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

Last Carlton goal - Carlton gets a centre clearance and goes straight down the middle. The ball falls to Gibbons, who goals. Langdon is resting on the bench. Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.

OK, folks. There you have it, goal by goal (and those of you who also have Kayo can go through and check my analysis).

I'm calling it. There's an anti-Future-Captain vendetta.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:40 pm
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Howe's kick to Langdon halfway through Q2 was shocking.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:07 pm
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^^^

Very funny P4S 😂
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Pies4shaw wrote:


Twelfth Carlton goal - Phillips gives away 47 50-metre penalties in a row.
Those that understand the game know that it was Langdon's fault.


Funny this I was bitching at the time while it happened that both Treloar (centre line) and Langdon (about 60m) had their backs to it and were both oblivious. 1 of the 2 should have gone to man the mark up the field and called Philips to clear out. So sorry but I did partly blame him for the 2nd fifty.

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That's quite funny.
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