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Clemo Capricorn

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:45 pm
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post title says it all

so the goal cameras have x-ray vision?

not for the first time there’s controversy over a player marking or not over the line between goal and point posts

case in point Johnson not long after the Pendels high free kick advantage cancellation

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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:49 pm
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It’s bizarre because the goal and field umpire didn’t call for the review — the review people told the umpire. Surely it’s just umpires call unless the umpire requests a review?
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:22 pm
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Surely it couldn’t be too hard to install an overhead camera directly above each set of goal posts (say, sticking out of the stadium roof). Perhaps the expense wouldn’t be warranted due to the rarity of these close calls, but it’s not like a solution is impossible here.
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RudeBoy 



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:08 am
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Seriously, footy is a game. I'd rather we got rid of the technology altogether and let the umpires make the call. Sure they'll get a few wrong. So what? It's part of the drama of the game.

Technology, robotics and AI should be used for medical surgeries, space flights, manufacturing and engineering, but not for sport. The human element, including human frailties, errors and mistakes, are essential for the emotional content of all sport, especially footy.
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Uncle Jack Virgo



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:15 am
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If a laser shot straight up from the top centre of each post it should be fairly clear whether a ball has passed in front of or behind the beam or broken it.
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The Black and White Lion 

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:59 am
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
It’s bizarre because the goal and field umpire didn’t call for the review — the review people told the umpire. Surely it’s just umpires call unless the umpire requests a review?


If the ARC has the ability to dictate reviews to umpires surely it can do this on free kicks also and stop the howlers that ruin the game. Nothing worse than a missed free kick and the ball whipped to the other end with advantage to score a 12point goal

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aus50ford 



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:03 pm
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Bit like the push in the back Grundy copped in the 2018 GF
that action resulted in a goal, why wasn't that reviewed

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:17 pm
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RudeBoy wrote:
Seriously, footy is a game. I'd rather we got rid of the technology altogether and let the umpires make the call. Sure they'll get a few wrong. So what? It's part of the drama of the game.

Technology, robotics and AI should be used for medical surgeries, space flights, manufacturing and engineering, but not for sport. The human element, including human frailties, errors and mistakes, are essential for the emotional content of all sport, especially footy.


Good point. It is interesting too that we get so fixated on "controversial" score review decisions with sometimes no more than millimetres of difference when umpires make much more costly mistakes that result in goals multiple times a game.

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Ronnie McKeowns boots 

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:23 pm
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While we are on it, was anyone else concerned about the use of the goals review system for a touched off the boot call, I think in the 2nd quarter?

There is absolutely no call for it to be used in that context, and where does it end?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:36 pm
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I work with cameras - I'm surprised they do the whole stepping through the footage - its probably expedient. The cameras they have should be calculated in 3d space and triangulated to enable the ball to be tracked - would give a better result. I also know there are magnetic systems that will register the proximity of the ball to a faster and greater degree than gps (although that may have changed).
If I were in collingwood right now I'd be doing an umpire review of all the dodgy calls we have been getting. I'm sure we aren't the only ones that are raising eyebrows at whats been happening - the richmond game in the first half was pretty 'how do you do'. These calls are changing winning results across the afl.

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