WE CANNOT, must NOT, lose our next Grand Final!

[Piesnchess]

Like many here, I truly believe, with a good run with injuries, we , on top of last years excellent showing under our new Coach and staff, have a fantastic chance of making top four this season, and making the Grand Final too. We ony just missed last season by a lousy point, and the old Cats will start their slide,at long, long last, this season, Duckwood gone, and age will get them now . I reckon we may well smash them in Round 1, we owe them bigtime, revenge is a dish best served cold. Anyway, if we do make the GF, we must not, cannot, and must not lose, it is just out of the question. It just cannot be tolerated, not again, no way Jose. ! Five goals up in 2018, and we blew it yet again, broke our hearts again. Ive seen us lose 11 GFs now, for just 3 wins, and i was too young to recall 1958. We dropped 2011, 2018, drop another one, and the Colliewobbles are back to haunt us, yet again, and the media an other fans, will crucify the club, again.

WE cannot lose our next Grand Final. Period.

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

Our next grand final will be our 50th grand final appearance make it count this time

[lazzadesilva]

Piesnchess, I totally agree with the sentiment but to ensure that it definitely happens is a bit tougher than hoping like hell that this will be achieved. Like you, I’m also a psychologically wounded magpie soldier who will be absolutely bloody gutted if we lost another GF. I’m now at a conundrum stage of life of rather not being in a GF than enduring yet another loss. I have a lifelong magpie mate with whom I have gone to over a thousand games since we were kids but who will lock himself up and watch/listen to a Collingwood GF only on his own every single time. In my case, I’m fully confident and certain that in all logical probability, we will win another flag. The WHEN is the unknown 🤔 And although I have tons of hope and positive feelings about this happening, I can only fervently wish that it will happen before I end up wherever in the hereafter. This is an honest position I find myself in year after year. This is why the 2018 loss hurt me to the bone. But without hope, there’s nothing.

[slangman]

I totally agree.

I’ve always thought that we scrounged our way to Grand Finals with teams
that were competitive without being elite. It has been rare for us to have been the dominant team of the era.

2011 was our best team but we were matched by an equally great side. The GF of 1977, 1980, 2002,2003 and 2018 were all blue collar teams that were outclassed by superior opposition.

I sense that we are building for sustained success instead of just hoping that we pinch a premiership.

[MagpieWhisperer35]

I’m done watching Pies in GF live. 2018 broke me. 2002 was bad enough.
Oh well it’s not as exciting watching replay but I’ll die of a heart attack so that’s how it is.
Go Pies

[Rd10.1998_11.1#36]

Is the OP copy-pasted from last Feb?

[Pies4shaw]

I don't know why people bother starting threads like this. I think the list of Collingwood supporters who think that we can and should lose our next Grand Final is probably fairly short.

[RudeBoy]

[Harrysz]

There's something here about counting chickens, but anyway.................

In 1988-89, we played in 3 finals and lost them all. There was no reason to think we'd be premiers in 1990. In 2009 we were a good side but Geelong and St Kilda seemed to be a long way ahead of us. There was no reason to think that we'd be premiers in 2010. My point is that how we go in one year doesn't dictate how we'll go the next year.

Geelong was a good side last year, but not as good as many other premiership teams. As well as being a good side, you need a lot of luck to win a premiership. The Swans were a shadow of their best on Grand Final Day and made Geelong look like a super team. In reality, the other good sides fell over. Melbourne flopped and Lions weren't good enough. We were a chance but we had to win that Qualifying Final. There's a line from "The Wire" - "If you come for the king you'd best not miss". We had Geelong on toast in the first quarter but we "missed" and let them off the hook. So Geelong was a bit like Djokovic in the Australian Open - possibly the best anyway but the good opposition fell away.

So, the next time we get to a Grand Final we'd best "not miss". And by the way, I'm sick of hearing people say Geelong's too old or too slow or too anything. They're a good club and they're always up there. We have to emulate that and better it.

[lazzadesilva]

[Piesnchess]

[What'sinaname]

[David]

I wouldn’t place much stock on it, but yes, among Victorian clubs, we have the worst record against interstate teams in grand finals:

Hawthorn 4–1
Richmond 2–0
Western Bulldogs 1–0
Geelong 2–2
North Melbourne 1–1
Carlton N/A
Melbourne N/A
St Kilda 0–1
Essendon 0–1
Collingwood 0-3

[lazzadesilva]

Oh well Probability says we are well overdue for a win against an interstater.

[npalm]

No Laz, that's not how probability works. Past events are irrelevant. If I toss 10 heads in a row, the probability of throwing a head again is still 50%.

Unfortunate really, cos if probability did work the way we'd like, then the Pies would win 8 of the next 10 Grand Finals we contest.