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stui magpie
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Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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You're actually both right.
Tazers are a non lethal option with a lower threshold of use than a firearm. You cannot write overly prescriptive rules encompassing every possible situation as there are just too many variables. You provide a framework and guidelines, which they would already have, and training and then rely on individual judgement in a specific situation. With Body cams and the tazers also have their own camera which is activated when it's armed and ready to fire, investigators have had evidence to examine to determine if an officer has acted outside the guidelines. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Bruce Gonsalves
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The dipsh1t copper should be sacked and charged. No excuses for the cop's behaviour.
The woman was 95!!!! Think about it!! |
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pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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I've stopped monster lace monitors that've escaped from biting me and climbing up my leg in an enclosed space with a broom! Surely much harder to control than a rampaging 95-year old!
Seriously, though, it seems extreme but you need much more context to judge. People do all kinds of unfortunate things in the wrong set of circumstances, and mistakes happen even when people are diligent. We don't know how good his information was, other signals he picked up, distracting elements, his state of mind leading into the incident, etc. The way humans react is not easily commented on from at a distance, nor easily controlled under pressure. Is there footage yet? I'd be holding fire, so to speak, while awaiting more info. _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
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think positive
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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stui magpie wrote: | You're actually both right.
Tazers are a non lethal option with a lower threshold of use than a firearm. You cannot write overly prescriptive rules encompassing every possible situation as there are just too many variables. You provide a framework and guidelines, which they would already have, and training and then rely on individual judgement in a specific situation. With Body cams and the tazers also have their own camera which is activated when it's armed and ready to fire, investigators have had evidence to examine to determine if an officer has acted outside the guidelines. |
nope im right hes completely wrong
and he doesnt care
the taser should not have been used on a 95 year old with a walker, no ifs no buts,
but tasers are a better option than guns a lot of times, though maybe not, a few less **** head thieves on the street is not a bad thang! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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pietillidie wrote: | I've stopped monster lace monitors that've escaped from biting me and climbing up my leg in an enclosed space with a broom! Surely much harder to control than a rampaging 95-year old!
Seriously, though, it seems extreme but you need much more context to judge. People do all kinds of unfortunate things in the wrong set of circumstances, and mistakes happen even when people are diligent. We don't know how good his information was, other signals he picked up, distracting elements, his state of mind leading into the incident, etc. The way humans react is not easily commented on from at a distance, nor easily controlled under pressure. Is there footage yet? I'd be holding fire, so to speak, while awaiting more info. |
did you get a pic of the lizard, now that would be something
no, they aint showing the footage, which is damning in its self! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Shoulda used the taser on the protesters today, selfish bastards, they gave no idea who they disrupted, disgusting
Not the way to get people to join the movement _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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stui magpie
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Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Id call them Disruptors rather than protesters. Protesters tend to march along streets with a permit, Disruptors aim to cause maximum disruption to ordinary people trying to go about their lives in the deluded belief that it will somehow sway them toward their cause. Deluded zealot imbeciles. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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stui magpie
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The charges were layed before she died, they may be upgraded now. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Seems like the cop is in deep shit after some analysis of the body cam footage cam out.
Apparently there was 2 Police and 2 Ambos there, trying to talk her down. She got out of her chair and started walking toward Police holding the knife. One officer put on slash proof gloves and was prepared to try to take the knife and the other allegedly said something like "Ah, bugger it" and shot her with the Taser.
How do Tasers work and what are the rules in NSW.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/what-happens-when-you-re-tasered-george-hateley-tried-it-13-times-20230524-p5daun.html
To keep David happy,
Quote: | Unless in exceptional circumstances, police guidelines hold that Tasers shouldn’t be used against people who are elderly, handcuffed, pregnant, disabled or have a small body mass (including children). The same rules apply for people who are running away or driving.
Police are only supposed to fire a Taser to protect human life or protect themselves from violent confrontation, risk of bodily harm and dangerous animals. |
More in the article linked. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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partypie
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Apparently the nursing home in question whilst currently passing national standards has not met them on more than one occasion in the past few years. No, she shouldn’t have been tasred, but maybe that situation shouldn’t have arisen in the first place if she was being looked after competently. |
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I agree,most nursing homes havea dementia ward, with special equipment, cant see how steak knives are even in the ward. _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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