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My vote:
Yes
54%
 54%  [ 13 ]
No
37%
 37%  [ 9 ]
undecided leaning to yes
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
undecided leaning to no
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 24

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:07 am
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My understanding of why the Yes campaign isn't providing specific grainy detail is because it doesn't exist. If the Yes votes gets up, then it will be up to Parliament to legislate how it will all (initially) work. That's not being explained well at all.

When I first heard about The Voice I was against it as I thought it would be just another fkn ATSIC, but as I learned more about it, I changed my mind and now I'm a Yes voter.

I get that there's a number of different reasons why people might vote No, the least of which (despite the shrills from entitled Leftards) is being racist.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:06 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
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My understanding of why the Yes campaign isn't providing specific grainy detail is because it doesn't exist. If the Yes votes gets up, then it will be up to Parliament to legislate how it will all (initially) work. That's not being explained well at all.

When I first heard about The Voice I was against it as I thought it would be just another fkn ATSIC, but as I learned more about it, I changed my mind and now I'm a Yes voter.

I get that there's a number of different reasons why people might vote No, the least of which (despite the shrills from entitled Leftards) is being racist.


well i have a major trust issue with that!

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:53 pm
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That's fair enough, but the alternative if the vote goes No is that the Government will just legislate it anyway.

The only difference will be that firstly, the First Nations Peoples don't get recognition in the constitution and secondly, a future government could choose to remove the voice all together whereas if it's in the constitution it can't be removed but it's form can still be changed

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:05 pm
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It should be rebranded as the InVoice because the demands will carry a huge cost to the Government and tax payers alike.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:20 pm
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Bucks5 wrote:
It should be rebranded as the InVoice because the demands will carry a huge cost to the Government and tax payers alike.

Will cost absolutely nothing to the government, because the Voice is a total fraud. The government will not spend a penny in addressing the social deprivation that afflicts the vast majority of the indigenous population. Instead, it is bribing a corrupt affluent layer of upper middle class indigenous academics, bureaucrats, entrepreneurs, lawyers to promote the voice and create the illusion that somehow voting ''yes'' for the voice is a way forward for the aboriginal people. As for the government, it is laughing all the way to the bank, because it pretends to be "concerned'' about the fate of the aboriginal population in this country, while spending nothing to address the third world conditions prevailing in so many Aboriginal communities.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:15 pm
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So if The Voice isn't the way to help fix the issues you outline, all of which are real and legit, what is? White people in parliament making decisions and spending more money on shit that don't work?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:27 am
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Is there any proof First Nation politicians will do any better? I do agree with you, not convinced it has the sincerity to work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:43 pm
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So, has anyone changed their minds, either way?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:12 am
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Nup
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:12 am
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Well I already did a while back!
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