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inxs88
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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Unfortunately today only highlighted the fact that Jordan DeGoey is nothing more than a glorified tease. And before the defence attorneys prosecute their replies lets consider these facts. Jordan today when we really needed him was given an absolute lesson by Newcombe and Day in centre clearances it bordered on embarrassment. After 3 weeks off for another mid-year indiscretion, albeit this being an on-field one, he has come back and offered nothing over the last month.
Jordan needs to be measured and marked at a higher grading than Adams, Daicos, Sidebottom and Pendles. He held out for a 5 year deal with mitigated behavioural clauses and at 27 years of age and supposedly the fittest he has ever been. His time should be now. Not next year, now!! His contemporaries of Petracca, Oliver, Neale, Butters, Rozee, The Bont and Brayshaw produce game in, game out and what do we get from Jordan? We get:
* cameo flashes of impact at best
* repeated fumbling when the heat is on
* hack kick turnovers infinitum
* zero defence intent
* periods of disappearing
We are a fan base that has for decades accepted less and valued our own at higher share prices than the market. Phil Carman comes to mind. 1977 doesn't bear repeating but simply put when we needed him at the pointy end, he was not there. It wouldn't surprise to see him endure his obligatory leg muscle injury in the next 4 weeks rendering himself lame come finals time. Cynical? You are probably right but that is the one thing he has avoided thus far in 2023.
The above shall be viewed as post game mutterings of an emotional, disenchanted fan. But that isn't the case. If we are truly honest with our side as of August 5th, 2023, we have only 4 players with champion, superstar match defining tendencies:
* Moore
* N Daicos
* Elliott &
* DeGoey
It's completely unfair to rely on a 20 year old to shoulder this burden. Moore is an intercepting defending her saves goals not creates. Jamie is 31 years old
matchwinner whose done "more than enough" in this space particularly in both 2022/23. So that leaves an SOS toJordan DeGoey. Our 2023 hopes lie with you Jordan. today should have been a 35 possession, 3 goals dominating performance against a freshmen mid-field.
I hope you're hurting tonight although I doubt it. I hope this footy opportunity to create history really means something to you like it does for your peers and fans. We have 6 games left, at best to see if you can embrace what you have at your disposal. Please prove me wrong! _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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Great post.
JDG kicked 2 goals - tick, but did very little else. _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Carman was 25 times the player De Goey is.
I’m sick of people whining about Carman’s “role” in 1977. The team was leading by 27 points at 3/4 time in the Grand Final against a side that had kicked just 4 goals for the first 3 quarters. 20 players choked that day. Carman was not one of them. |
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doriswilgus
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Location: the great southern land
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Degoey has been hugely disappointing since he came back from suspension.I don’t know what the problem is,but he’s definitely not playing like he was pre suspension. |
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shawthing
Joined: 04 Jul 2019 Location: Victoria Park
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I think you're right. Our list overall is nowhere near good enough. It's amazing we have stayed on top for so long. |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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he can tease me any day! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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he can tease me any day! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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inxs88
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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With Nick Daicos out, the pressure only rises now. _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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lazzadesilva
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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Pies4shaw wrote: | Carman was 25 times the player De Goey is.
I’m sick of people whining about Carman’s “role” in 1977. The team was leading by 27 points at 3/4 time in the Grand Final against a side that had kicked just 4 goals for the first 3 quarters. 20 players choked that day. Carman was not one of them. |
Carman was a Superstar ahead of his time as a player who was brilliant kick. He was never a choker but his discipline and temperament was wanting. We had that 1977 flag in the bag until his dumb act on Tuck. Ross Dunne tried his best to make it work without Carman but couldn’t pull it off in the GF replay. _________________ I term the current Collingwood attack based strategy “Unceasing Waves” like on a stormy and windy day with rough seas. A Perfect Storm ☔️ |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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The first GF was indeed a full team choke, but if Carmen had played, we win.
Losing the Replay was down to Hafey training the players hard during the week when they were all flat and buggered.
IF we had won 77 and Carmen hadn't been shipped off, 79 may well have been different too. Sliding doors. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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inxs88
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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The point being both go missing when we really need them. _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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Quincy
Joined: 17 Aug 2021
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Yes Jordy has been disappointing since his suspension and our list is one of the weakest on paper so we need him to stand up. |
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inxs88
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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Quincy wrote: | Yes Jordy has been disappointing since his suspension and our list is one of the weakest on paper so we need him to stand up. |
110% _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
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Ummmm.. as far as I know, JDG has never actually head butted an umpire, has he. ?? Phil did, and never played again. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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Gerry Cooper
Joined: 23 Feb 2012
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Neither of them have been the smartest sandwich in the loaf. _________________ We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.� |
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