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Podpicken 
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| 35forever wrote: | Still.
All these months & it still gives me visceral pain to see their names. Stevo, Ads, Flip, Bos... Hard to describe, it’s like a fist grabbing my insides, & a hard feeling radiating up to my throat. It’s similar to the pangs you’d get as a kid when you saw a girl you still liked with someone else. I can’t avoid looking at What could be a once in a lifetime group of kids we picked up, & knowing, without doubt that they’d be a lot better with Treloar & Stephenson providing speed & run. And goals. And a bit more too. I can’t think of two guys who gave the side a bigger lift the moment they arrived than these two. And I certainly can’t believe we judged their ability & usefulness on the most �$%$ed up season in VFL/AFL history. Are we lucky they didn’t dump Grundy, Steelo, & Cox too?
I’m sure everyone has a perfectly valid & sensible reason they had to go, just don’t bother. I’ve never heard of a team that did things anything like as self-destructive as we did in our ‘suicide decade‘ & I cant shake the feeling that the next spectacularly stupid move by a club will be by us too.
We have the form.
Ok fire away... |
Good post. Stevo and Ads provided real pace and game-breaking style and it's not so easy to replace. However...
+ They're both a bit f---ed up. Let's face it. It's true. Lots of money too. Stevo, with hand on heart, was terrible for us for two years. He's 50-50 how his career ends up from this point. Ads, I'm sorry, but I love his passion, ability, speed, the excitement he brings but he's getting injured and I'm pretty sure the intel at Pies inner sanctum says he's a risk.
+ Flip. Has a crack, does some nice things but let's face it - for his position he's not quick enough.
+ Bos. I'm sorry, not good enough. Not smart enough. Passionate, fast, young and may prove me wrong. But not up to it for Top 4 kinda stuff. Sorry, I want a kid his size and pace to be real game breaking type of player.
+ Given all of the above, we've reduced the $ significantly and have brought in 5 blokes who all look great 'potentially'. Two or three in particular.
Summary? Shit situation to be in but I don't mind the logic with outgoing, $ savings and potential we've brought in.
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mattdally
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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I'll bite:
Treloar - Gun, brilliant footballer. One massive issue - scoreboard impact - not goals directly, but being involved in scoring chains and goal assists - 2020 and
2019 he was ranked in the bottom 2% of all midfielders. Not good enough.
Stevo - Clearly something was not right. 2018 was amazing, 2019 betting scandal, 2020 too many rumored issues - true or not, clearly he has fallen out with the club. Didn't look interested at all this season - did he peak already?
Phillips - courageous, endurance machine. Poor kick and he seems to have lost some pace over the last two seasons. Big salary offloaded - right call.
Atu - unknown - not sure why he was traded, but maybe club had seen enough and decided he wasn't good enough. |
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Abdul The Bull
Joined: 02 Aug 2017
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| mattdally wrote: | I'll bite:
Treloar - Gun, brilliant footballer. One massive issue - scoreboard impact - not goals directly, but being involved in scoring chains and goal assists - 2020 and
2019 he was ranked in the bottom 2% of all midfielders. Not good enough.
Stevo - Clearly something was not right. 2018 was amazing, 2019 betting scandal, 2020 too many rumored issues - true or not, clearly he has fallen out with the club. Didn't look interested at all this season - did he peak already?
Phillips - courageous, endurance machine. Poor kick and he seems to have lost some pace over the last two seasons. Big salary offloaded - right call.
Atu - unknown - not sure why he was traded, but maybe club had seen enough and decided he wasn't good enough. |
Excellent synopsis. I feel that most of us are rather less troubled by the talent leaving than the method adopted. The real issue for me is that Ads and Stevo were only recently re-signed and yet they were unceremoniously dumped. The greatest issue in all of this is the grossly inept player management.
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Elwood
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| Abdul The Bull wrote: | | mattdally wrote: | I'll bite:
Treloar - Gun, brilliant footballer. One massive issue - scoreboard impact - not goals directly, but being involved in scoring chains and goal assists - 2020 and
2019 he was ranked in the bottom 2% of all midfielders. Not good enough.
Stevo - Clearly something was not right. 2018 was amazing, 2019 betting scandal, 2020 too many rumored issues - true or not, clearly he has fallen out with the club. Didn't look interested at all this season - did he peak already?
Phillips - courageous, endurance machine. Poor kick and he seems to have lost some pace over the last two seasons. Big salary offloaded - right call.
Atu - unknown - not sure why he was traded, but maybe club had seen enough and decided he wasn't good enough. |
Excellent synopsis. I feel that most of us are rather less troubled by the talent leaving than the method adopted. The real issue for me is that Ads and Stevo were only recently re-signed and yet they were unceremoniously dumped. The greatest issue in all of this is the grossly inept player management. |
That's the issue for me. It's not that we let them go. The issue is what we got for them. Treloar cost two high end draft picks. Stephenson cost us the high end draft draft pick we would have used on a Collingwood supporter in Aaron Naughton. |
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mattdally
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | | Abdul The Bull wrote: | | mattdally wrote: | I'll bite:
Treloar - Gun, brilliant footballer. One massive issue - scoreboard impact - not goals directly, but being involved in scoring chains and goal assists - 2020 and
2019 he was ranked in the bottom 2% of all midfielders. Not good enough.
Stevo - Clearly something was not right. 2018 was amazing, 2019 betting scandal, 2020 too many rumored issues - true or not, clearly he has fallen out with the club. Didn't look interested at all this season - did he peak already?
Phillips - courageous, endurance machine. Poor kick and he seems to have lost some pace over the last two seasons. Big salary offloaded - right call.
Atu - unknown - not sure why he was traded, but maybe club had seen enough and decided he wasn't good enough. |
Excellent synopsis. I feel that most of us are rather less troubled by the talent leaving than the method adopted. The real issue for me is that Ads and Stevo were only recently re-signed and yet they were unceremoniously dumped. The greatest issue in all of this is the grossly inept player management. |
That's the issue for me. It's not that we let them go. The issue is what we got for them. Treloar cost two high end draft picks. Stephenson cost us the high end draft draft pick we would have used on a Collingwood supporter in Aaron Naughton. |
Yeah, Naughton would have been handy. There were plenty of good players in that draft. In 2018 no one would have denied we picked the best player in that draft. Problem is - if Stevo was that good then why weren't 17 clubs after him rather than just the one? |
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mattdally
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Looking back at Callum Twomey's 2017 Phantom Draft was interesting.
He had Nathan Murphy at 16 and Stephenson at 17.
Let's hope Murphy can get a good crack at it this season. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018
Location: Sevilla, Spain
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Abdul The Bull
Joined: 02 Aug 2017
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| Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | | mattdally wrote: | | if Stevo was that good then why weren't 17 clubs after him rather than just the one? |
He has a heart condition, remember? Takes medication every day |
He certainly had a 'heart' condition last season.... #rollseyes#
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slangman
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Stephenson will be the one that we miss the most this season.
His ability to kick goals from out of nowhere is not something we that have in abundance.
Hopefully someone steps up and takes their opportunity.
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mattdally
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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| Yeah, we might have someone that actually plays the other three quarters. |
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glasseyevfx
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Location: Gold Coast
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Does anyone know how Briskey is travelling? I see we still have two spots - is that on a deadline? Can we leave them vacant?
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Presti35 
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Joined: 05 Oct 2001
Location: London, England
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^If he gets signed on, I wonder if we have a plan for the final spot?
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themonk
Joined: 02 Mar 2004
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What's with Trent Bianco, when recruited he was 178 cm and now he's listed as 188 cm.
Did he really grow 10 cm in just over 1 year? |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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I very much doubt it. I reckon it’s a misprint where it was meant to be 178 cm
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BazBoy
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Any one hear Brisley not being picked up
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