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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006
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| Damien wrote: | | Homophobia? Why would he. He was always bragging about his ability with the ladies. |
That worked/ Fuzzy turned to chicks as well
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Magpietothemax 
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| ronrat wrote: | | Damien wrote: | | Homophobia? Why would he. He was always bragging about his ability with the ladies. |
That worked/ Fuzzy turned to chicks as well |
Well, you probably explained in this post why Lumumba was so opposed to homophobia. Not that he was gay, but he had a very good friend who was.
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Raw Hammer
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| Lazza wrote: | | Just an aside. When I visited the States on the nineties, I was intrigued (for want of a better word) that the African Americans were happy to call each other the n word but were upset if another non African American person did thisđ If this was such an insulting word, why would keep its usage going? And if itâs a matter of being selectively offended, why is this? You cannot be half pregnant? I found this selective use offensive and illogical. Go figuređ |
This is surely a shit stir post, câmon now...
Itâs about taking the word back, about owning it, about turning it in its head as a form of camaraderie amongst fellow brothers to dilute its negative connotations, the way my fellow ethnic brethren use the W word as a term of brotherly endearment and inner circle reference, yet rightfully frown upon its use from outsiders (i.e. common white anglos, unless endorsed within ons friendship group), and rightfully so. Clearly this is something âwhiteâ people will never comprehend if youâre still asking this type of question. In 2021 I wouldâve thought this is pretty clear to everyone by now.
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | Lazza wrote: | | Just an aside. When I visited the States on the nineties, I was intrigued (for want of a better word) that the African Americans were happy to call each other the n word but were upset if another non African American person did thisđ If this was such an insulting word, why would keep its usage going? And if itâs a matter of being selectively offended, why is this? You cannot be half pregnant? I found this selective use offensive and illogical. Go figuređ |
This is surely a shit stir post, câmon now...
Itâs about taking the word back, about owning it, about turning it in its head as a form of camaraderie amongst fellow brothers to dilute its negative connotations, the way my fellow ethnic brethren use the W word as a term of brotherly endearment and inner circle reference, yet rightfully frown upon its use from outsiders (i.e. common white anglos, unless endorsed within ons friendship group), and rightfully so. Clearly this is something âwhiteâ people will never comprehend if youâre still asking this type of question. In 2021 I wouldâve thought this is pretty clear to everyone by now. |
And I would have thought it was pretty clear to everyone by now as to what Lazzaâs background was. |
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
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^ disagree - I find it pretty strange too... I've hardly got a drop of anglo saxon blood in my veins - anyone calling me a W - friend or not - is an idiot.
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Mr Miyagi
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| The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote: | | ^ disagree - I find it pretty strange too... I've hardly got a drop of anglo saxon blood in my veins - anyone calling me a W - friend or not - is an idiot. |
Finally agree with you, Daffy. Non-English migrant parents, never identified with âwhite Australiaâ, copped racism (my old man especially), tried hard to be âAussieâ so we could fit in... classic PoC migrant story, but because Iâm fair skinned I donât get that honour, Iâm considered white and my whiteness goes back to the first fleet. Itâs bloody bizarre and hypocritical how weâre all judged. The diversity of âwhiteâ Australia needs to be part of the convo. |
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thesoretoothsayer
Joined: 26 Apr 2017
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^Funny isn't it. You're never "really" an Aussie.
Until, of course, it's time to talk about genocide, racism and privilege and then you're suddenly lumped in as a 100%, true-blue Aussie. |
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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | Lazza wrote: | | Just an aside. When I visited the States on the nineties, I was intrigued (for want of a better word) that the African Americans were happy to call each other the n word but were upset if another non African American person did thisđ If this was such an insulting word, why would keep its usage going? And if itâs a matter of being selectively offended, why is this? You cannot be half pregnant? I found this selective use offensive and illogical. Go figuređ |
This is surely a shit stir post, câmon now...
Itâs about taking the word back, about owning it, about turning it in its head as a form of camaraderie amongst fellow brothers to dilute its negative connotations, the way my fellow ethnic brethren use the W word as a term of brotherly endearment and inner circle reference, yet rightfully frown upon its use from outsiders (i.e. common white anglos, unless endorsed within ons friendship group), and rightfully so. Clearly this is something âwhiteâ people will never comprehend if youâre still asking this type of question. In 2021 I wouldâve thought this is pretty clear to everyone by now. |
You either accept the word or not.
I heard Nick Giankopolous once say that the word âw*gâ was him wanting to take ownership of the word....as a person of ethnic origin I couldnât help but laugh at the stupidity of that comment.
The word is either offensive to you or not. You canât have it both ways.
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Pies4shaw 
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| On what plausible basis do you assert that a "word is either offensive to you or not"? It all depends on context and who is using it. Almost everyone can and does have at least some words that do "have it both ways". |
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slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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I canât work out if youâre just joking or not because itâs quite clear what I wrote.
W*g is either a word you accept or donât accept. Being selective in who you accept it from is absolutele hypocrisy.
So would it have been ok if Leon Davis called Lumumba âc***pâ because he isnât white but absolutely offensive if the rest of the team did the same?
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Pies4shaw
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No, I'm not joking. As to your example, it's not for me to say. Language is very much more complex that you would like to pretend. So, if, eg, one of my friends calls out to get my attention by shouting "Oy, c*&t", I am going to respond to that very differently than if someone I've never meet speaks to me in the same way. It's all dependent upon context.
Your premise that being selective in who you accept a derogatory term from is hypocritical is, with respect, silly beyond belief. Think reflectively about it and you will find that to be so on a daily basis in your own life. |
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5 from the wing on debut
Joined: 27 May 2016
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | No, I'm not joking. As to your example, it's not for me to say. Language is very much more complex that you would like to pretend. So, if, eg, one of my friends calls out to get my attention by shouting "Oy, c*&t", I am going to respond to that very differently than if someone I've never meet speaks to me in the same way. It's all dependent upon context.
Your premise that being selective in who you accept a derogatory term from is hypocritical is, with respect, silly beyond belief. Think reflectively about it and you will find that to be so on a daily basis in your own life. |
So your friends consider you to be a cnut.
Must be because you are a Pies supporter. |
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Pies4shaw
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Probably. Although, most people I meet eventually call me that, for one reason or another.  |
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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| Leon: âThe fact he has done what he has done for so long and he has made mistake after mistake after mistake, to have that personal relationship with him and do the work at the club I have done over the years and educate people there and always be there to give him advice, it is very disappointing and hurtful that time after time after time you see that same attitude, âOh it was just a jokeâ.â |
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Peponi
There is only one team. And that team is Collingwood.
Joined: 18 Sep 2010
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Racism is trivial and funny to those who havenât experienced it preferring to dismiss those who have.
We have a loooooong way to go in Australia.
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