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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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Charlie Oneeye 
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My take is, the club rated his potential, gave him a contract. They allowed him to go back home in August. But in the end, the lure of home was too much.
Keane was developing well. Unfortunately, I think we all sensed it, he was plodding. As we now know, his heart was elsewhere.
In his time we delisted quite a few players… so it's part of the process to win some and to lose some.
Casting the net wider just means it might be less of a chance, but why exclude the option. |
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Lazza
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Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| Charlie Oneeye wrote: | | Casting the net wider just means it might be less of a chance, but why exclude the option. |
Exactly the way I see it. I just don’t get the angst and the whinging about snaring players from anywhere. Historically Collingwood have never been great exponents of taking risks when compared to other clubs and we now can’t criticise this practice. Obviously the chances of getting a good player are worse than normal but to me it’s worth the effort.
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David 
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For a minute I thought this was old news, and then I remembered that it was Tohill who went back at the end of last year!
It's pretty understandable, really: it's obviously not an easy time to be on the other side of the world from your family. I think he showed some good signs last year and might have stepped up this season, but situations like this kind of come with the territory when you're importing players from the other side of the world on a temporary basis.
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SteveH67
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Location: Canberra, Australia
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Cats have suffered the same fate with one of their irish recruits deciding to stay home and play Gaelic instead.
During these COVID times, it will be difficult to bring in the irish players if they are not already established here like Tuohy for example.
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Ronnie McKeowns boots
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Sad indictment on the whole Cat B rookie concept for mine; that spot should be going to a young Australian player rather than pissing the investment away on an AFL vanity project
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David
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Joined: 27 Jul 2003
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| SteveH67 wrote: | Cats have suffered the same fate with one of their irish recruits deciding to stay home and play Gaelic instead.
During these COVID times, it will be difficult to bring in the irish players if they are not already established here like Tuohy for example. |
Agreed. Would be surprised if clubs took the punt down the track, even after COVID is no longer an issue – the reward vs expenditure doesn't really seem to be justified given how few who were not already based here have made it.
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Piesnchess
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Im over this bloody Irish experiment, it never works out hardly. Give it up and go for some more home grown Indigenous players, who wont piss off and let us down.
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thesoretoothsayer
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Im over this bloody Irish experiment, it never works out hardly. Give it up and go for some more home grown Indigenous players, who wont piss off and let us down. |
So no kid from the Tiwi islands or remote W.A. came to play football in Melbourne, got homesick, and decided to go back to his community?
Plenty of kids, from interstate, from remote communities, from the bush "piss off", it's not just the Irish. |
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Piesnchess
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| thesoretoothsayer wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | Im over this bloody Irish experiment, it never works out hardly. Give it up and go for some more home grown Indigenous players, who wont piss off and let us down. |
So no kid from the Tiwi islands or remote W.A. came to play football in Melbourne, got homesick, and decided to go back to his community?
Plenty of kids, from interstate, from remote communities, from the bush "piss off", it's not just the Irish. |
By far most indigenous players stick, the Irish experiment is cactus, the only really good one was the late, great, Jim Stynes, and that Cats defender, maybe one other, thats bout it. 
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Lazza
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Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | thesoretoothsayer wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | Im over this bloody Irish experiment, it never works out hardly. Give it up and go for some more home grown Indigenous players, who wont piss off and let us down. |
So no kid from the Tiwi islands or remote W.A. came to play football in Melbourne, got homesick, and decided to go back to his community?
Plenty of kids, from interstate, from remote communities, from the bush "piss off", it's not just the Irish. |
By far most indigenous players stick, the Irish experiment is cactus, the only really good one was the late, great, Jim Stynes, and that Cats defender, maybe one other, thats bout it. |
Hey Piesnchess, I loved the way Sean Wight played and wouldn’t have minded him in magpie colours.
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Has to be said - I guess Keane just wasn't keen
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stui magpie 
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| Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote: | | Sad indictment on the whole Cat B rookie concept for mine; that spot should be going to a young Australian player rather than pissing the investment away on an AFL vanity project |
Except the Cat B rookie list is separate to the primary list, young Australians don't qualify unless they come from a different sport like Wilson or Keeffe.
Same reasons as if he had of decided before the draft, we wouldn't have had an extra spot on the list nor can we replace him in the midseason draft.
I've got no problems with taking a speculative punt on a kid from a different sport or from overseas, if they don't work out or decide to go home, that's life.
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SteveH67
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Born to Pie
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I posted this in the mid season draft discussion, as they said in the article he probably would have been in the team now due to injuries in Roughead and Dean, I think he's missed his chance.
He stepped away due to homesickness, but he hasn't even been playing Gaelic football while he's been away, he's been playing hurling.
We took Marty Clarke back and saw that once you break the development momentum, you can't get it back.
No guarantee that Wilson, who grew up playing footy, was ever going to make it. But he stepped away to play basketball, and we've been putting the effort into him for a few years now and I really don't see him making it at AFL level.
I for one think this Irish experiment (and our current USA one) are done!
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