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Piethagoras' Theorem Taurus

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:57 am
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^ Not sure if you overlooked of perhaps don't rate him but I'd have McInnes ahead of any of Carmichael, Macrae, Ruscoe, Kelly and Bianco,
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:16 am
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Callum Twomey @CalTwomey·11m

Tippa (retirement game) set to be one of at least six changes for the Bombers' final game vs. Pies. Brad Scott saying today at least six players unavailable through injury - Draper, Stringer, Wright all didn't train, Guelfi out with the hamstring from last week.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:29 am
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I know that it won’t happen at this stage of the season but I wouldn’t mind going with Cox as the sole ruckman with Johnson as the 2nd ruck.
It seems that since Cameron has come back that the structure has changed from the dominant force early to a lacklustre ruck setup.
Cameron for me has been very disappointing, getting beaten more often than not, particularly around the ground, whilst also not being as effective as last year in front of goal.
I think Cox offers more based on this years performances and therefore should be 1st ruck. Cameron of last year would be my preferred option but he hasnt played anywhere near that level this year.
As was evident on last Friday night when Cox turned the game purely on effort and work rate.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:35 am
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Agree with Slang.
Cox is a better ruck than Cameron...but
Since Round 7 last year, when Cox has rucked solo we're 5 wins / 0 losses. The Cameron/Cox duo is 21/6

I still think the duo is our best set up.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:39 am
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I have a lot of time for Bianco, about time he got the gig now.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:39 pm
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The Age: The one per cent club - From little things big problems emerge at Collingwood.
Kane Cornes, AFL columnist, August 24, 2023 — 11.43am

Flirting with form leading into the AFL finals can be a dangerous temptation for many teams. Managing sore players before September’s big games is a wise play. Ensuring one is not mistaken for the other is a significant challenge for every coach taking a team to finals, especially when there is such a fine line between triumph and mediocrity.

Chief playmakers Jordan de Goey, Darcy Moore and Nick Daicos have been absent in recent weeks and Collingwood’s form has suffered. The question now is whether the Magpies have enough time to recapture their form and hunger for the finals. Collingwood have had – by virtue of their strong winning form from late March to late July – the luxury in August to look well in advance to September. But have the Magpies begun to pay more than they have gained? The little things – the so-called “one percenters” – are making the difference at Collingwood. Some of these small things are obvious on the stats sheet measured on game day. Some are an intangible force, stemming from the bond between the players and their impressive coach, Craig McRae. This has driven the Magpies’ rise to league leader and premiership favourite.

Guided by new-age leader Darcy Moore, Collingwood have showcased flair and velocity in their game. The dynamic ball movement and handball chains from half-back have drawn comparisons with the American exhibition basketball team, the Harlem Globetrotters, renowned for their showmanship and skills. But the allure of the Magpies is not solely found in their attacking style of play. Equally impressive is their aggressive defence, which limited opponents to an average of 68.5 points from rounds 1-19. This was the meanest defence in football. The players rallied around each other, especially when errors were made. Under McRae’s leadership, the team’s attitude remained persistently positive when tested.

In defeating Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval in the top-of-the-table clash in round 19, Collingwood secured a top-two spot and guaranteed themselves a home qualifying final at the MCG. But the journey has taken an unexpected turn towards mediocrity ever since Any ambitious team rests in its capacity to measure each success as a stepping stone rather than a final destination. Collingwood, however, became comfortable and complacent – somewhat strange for a team yet to achieve any real success. Injuries to pivotal players, including Nick Daicos and Moore, have hurt performance, but the blame goes well beyond having a few star players in the medical rooms. The Magpies have stumbled in three of their past four matches. The much-admired defensive framework that had bamboozled opponents is gone.

There is a clear blueprint for beating Collingwood: match the Magpies in the midfield and expose their lack of speed, protect the corridor, apply massive pressure, and do not let their intercepting defenders mark the ball. A dramatic transformation has unfolded. McRae’s team, the most miserly defence for 19 weeks, is now the league’s most expensive. From rounds 20-23, it has conceded an average of 105.8 points. During the same stretch, Collingwood also ranks last in goals conceded per inside-50m percentage, the defensive-50m pressure rating and the contested-possession differential. Collingwood have conceded more than 100 points in each of their past three games; a trend not seen since 2008.

McRae’s usually optimistic tone faded after the loss to the Brisbane Lions last Friday. “There’s something to be said about hunger, isn’t there? You take something away from someone, and there’s an element of ‘I want that back’,” he said. Moore and teammate Jamie Elliot were spotted cruising on a boat in Sydney Harbour before the Women’s World Cup final on Sunday night, according to a News Corp report. It is far from the ideal finals preparation, particularly for Moore, who is trying to recover from a hamstring injury a week earlier.

Big man Mason Cox returned to the line-up as the substitute on Friday night and was influential when thrust into the game as a ruckman in the second half. Cox would be acutely aware he is at risk of being left out of the team in September. He played with the intensity of a player on his last chance. Where was this intensity from Cox in his previous five games when he averaged five disposals and kicked just one goal? Comfort, perhaps, had seeped in. Midfielder Jordan De Goey’s season was stellar until a suspension for a brutal hit on West Coast rookie Elijah Hewitt in round 12. Since his return in round 17, De Goey’s performance has been underwhelming. Despite his exceptional talent, he has never secured All-Australian honours in nine seasons.

Irrespective of the outcome against a bruised Essendon on Friday night, Collingwood’s top-two status is safe. However, a hungry defensive display is a must to quell doubts – even those of their coach – about the team’s hunger. Formidable challenges lie ahead for a complacent team that subconsciously views itself as better than it is. Collingwood must find the hunger switch before a premiership falls through their hands. Is it too late?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:39 pm
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It would seem Essendon aren't exactly going all out for the win.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:44 pm
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I'd like the instructions to be simple this week, don't overload the boys with too much.
Start with the defence, keep it simple and give them the task of keeping the opposition under 60 points.

5 tackles per man. Get around your teammate if they're awarded a holding the ball free.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:09 pm
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LaurieHolden wrote:
I'd like the instructions to be simple this week, don't overload the boys with too much.
Start with the defence, keep it simple and give them the task of keeping the opposition under 60 points....


....just as long as we score a minimum of 61 points. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:35 pm
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I agree with Kane Popcorn in The Age today, we need to show a hunger to win, and win big, against Essendon if we’re to get to the GF. Seeing it from other clubs, but we’ve been a bit lacking the past month.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:14 pm
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robevpau1 wrote:
Callum Twomey @CalTwomey·11m

Tippa (retirement game) set to be one of at least six changes for the Bombers' final game vs. Pies. Brad Scott saying today at least six players unavailable through injury - Draper, Stringer, Wright all didn't train, Guelfi out with the hamstring from last week.


Yep definitely a big cue in the rack.

That means this game is simply about one thing. Playing ourselves back into form. Win by 100 points Pies. No ifs, buts, or maybes.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:15 pm
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Did people not pick up the news that Johnson hurt his ankle at training yesterday? Won't play.
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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:23 pm
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MCG. 7.20 (was 7.50 AFL site now showing 7.20)

Been having computer probs. What's the official start time ?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:33 pm
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Donny wrote:
MCG. 7.20 (was 7.50 AFL site now showing 7.20)

Been having computer probs. What's the official start time ?


7.50pm on AFL Site.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:52 pm
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Donny wrote:
MCG. 7.20 (was 7.50 AFL site now showing 7.20)

Been having computer probs. What's the official start time ?


You in SA?
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