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inxs88
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K wrote: | The article says the offer on the table is two years. |
"At least" 2 years _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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inxs88
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Dermie made a good point today that Clubs with an over-supply of the same "asset" it can ultimately be the best outcome for the holding club. In the Pies case we have:
* DeGoey
* WHE
* Stevo
* Steele
* Thomas
as somewhat similar forwards. If we can snag a flag with him this year, get a DeGoey back next year and with Elliott rising 28 next year, it may not be the worst outcome for our overall list Management.
Re-contracting Moore, Grundy, DeGoey etc.. whom are all under 25 years, maybe facilitated more easily if Elliott was to depart. Again, not the overall preference but maybe a pragmatic one. Can't see him leaving for less than a 3 year deal at $600,000+ and can't see the Pies offering more than 2 years at $400,000.
A Dees offer like that via Free Agency rules may lead to a first round draft pick which are always helpful. _________________ I love the Pies, hate Carlscum |
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^ ^ ^
Possibly but with the elite quality of Pendlebury, Sidey ( and Beams ) a lot closer to the end than the beginning, I would think Collingwood would be looking to get DeGoey and Stephenson much further up the ground as mids.
You don’t set out or plan to invest top 10 picks in stay at home small forwards. Both DeGoey and Stephenson have the quality to fill those big shoes.
As for Elliot, as long as we see ourselves in the current “ window “, I don’t want Elliot playing anywhere but Collingwood |
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We don't have a first round pick this year, so any compensation pick for a compelling deal should get us a genuine first round pick.
My initial reaction was f..k off Melbourne, but it could be softened if we win the GF _________________ Buzz
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What'sinaname wrote: | Swap for Petracca |
Jamie's a free agent so no swap needed.
I could understand Elliott wanting more security as he's had a tough run of it. If the Dees are offering more money but not more years, I think he'd likely stay unless the salary was significantly higher.
Don't see a major risk of him leaving unless he's squeezed out due to other signings/re-signings. Any club would be irresponsible to offer him a long or large contract given his history. _________________ Well done boys! |
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IF anything just adds to his incentive to do well this year, althogh hard to imagine him being mroe motivated than last game.
Coz that would improve his negotiating position if he plays really well in the finals and good luck to him, gotta get the bickies while you can in that career. Al;so fi we did lose him after he had a great finals campaign it would increase what we potentially get in exchange, potentially at least a 1st round pick for a (so far) very fragile player. |
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AN_Inkling wrote: | What'sinaname wrote: | Swap for Petracca |
Jamie's a free agent so no swap needed.
I could understand Elliott wanting more security as he's had a tough run of it. If the Dees are offering more money but not more years, I think he'd likely stay unless the salary was significantly higher.
Don't see a major risk of him leaving unless he's squeezed out due to other signings/re-signings. Any club would be irresponsible to offer him a long or large contract given his history. |
Don't clubs still trade for free agents, so they will not have to just hope to get him at the
draft? IT would suck if after all we have put into him we get nothing in trade - winning the ship this year would make it all worthwhile though. |
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Johnno75 wrote: | Apparently we are offering 2 years to Billy. Melbourne also offering 2 years on more money. Hopefully a little bit more coin will make no difference and he stays. |
i suspect there will be a 10% discount that will be acceptable to Jamie as a thank you for all the injury time. _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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How many top of top of the tree free agents can the dreamons obtain? It seems all big name potential free agents are linked there and then it's deal done!
It's clubs like Melbourne who can't develop their own, who then try to buy their way into premierships really must have an identity crisis. Piss off Melbourne fc you fickle bunch of wankers. _________________ no second chances |
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Are we in the off season player hunt and are any of our targets known
A tall defender or forward or other _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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BazBoy
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JDG knocked back a big offer a while back and that’s how I see Billy doing same
Kid was born with Black and White blood _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Mr Miyagi
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Melbourne wasn't interested all year, but as soon as he's back on the park and playing well (first final), they throw the money around. And they do it a week out from our prelim. It's shit and they should have waited until after the GF. Yeah, clubs talk to opposition players all through the year -- but that's the home and away season, not the finals. We need to be 100% focused on the big prize.
On the plus side, if Billy wants more security and we can get a decent draft pick because of his recent form, so be it |
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I see this as a positive. It would be a big morale boost for Billy and his confidence will grow with these talks. He is a Pies player and I believe he will remain so, repaying the faith we displayed in him through a pretty horrid injury period.
This will be a positive. Just watch Billy excel in front of the big crowd next week!
Thanks, Melbourne!! _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't. |
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I suspect that, in light of his injury profile over the past few years, Collingwood have only offered Billy a short and moderate contract, knowing also that they need salary space to keep Grundy, JDG and Darcy.
Billy will no doubt be very tempted by a biggish offer from the Dees, knowing that he probably only has 3 years left of his career.
I hope he stays, but I wouldn't hold it against him if he accepted a super offer from elsewhere. |
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He will never have success at the Snow bunnies, ever, only big crowd will be on the QB game, before they all flee to the snowfields. Hope he stays, be a Pie for life. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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