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Dave The Man 
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Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Yes, Dave. That's what I take from the figures, too. NSW has 4 deaths in a week and a small but increasing number of cases and it is a national emergency. The UK has about 300,000 cases and 450 deaths in a week and they call it "learning to live with the virus". |
Well UK are risking 100's of People's Lives
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Dave The Man
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and Showing how Dangerous having no Social Distancing in Huge Crowds can be very Dangerous
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eddiesmith 
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| Dave The Man wrote: |
and Showing how Dangerous having no Social Distancing in Huge Crowds can be very Dangerous |
But that completely flies in the face of all the blame for current lockdowns on the vaccine rollouts. If you’ve still got massive problems at 50-60% vaccination rates, then nothing this government could have done that would have stopped these current lockdowns? |
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Dave The Man
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Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| Quote: | Today’s thought!
I have been wearing a mask since we were first asked to do so and I will continue to do so when I want to or until I feel it is ok to stop . I’m not sure why being considerate to others for the common good is now being mocked by some who are calling it “living in fear”, but it needs to stop!!!... When I wear a mask over my nose and mouth in public and in the stores/supermarkets/pharmacies etc - I want you to know the following:
🟣 I'm educated enough to know that I could be asymptomatic and still give you the virus.
🟣 I don't "live in fear" of the virus; I just want to be part of the solution, not the problem.
What we all should be doing,BUT??
🟣 I don't feel like the "government controls me". I feel like I'm an adult contributing to the security in our society and I want to teach others the same.
🟣 If we could all live with the consideration of others in mind, the whole world would be a much better place.
🟣 Wearing a mask doesn't make me weak, scared, stupid or even "controlled". It makes me caring and responsible.
🟣 When you think about your appearance, discomfort, or other people's opinion of you, imagine a loved one - a child, father, mother, grandparent, aunt, uncle or even a stranger - placed on a ventilator, alone without you or any family member allowed at their bedside.....Ask yourself if you could have helped them a little by wearing a mask.
I am inviting you all to copy this and post it on your wall if you agree with me. 😷😷😷😷😷😷 I’ve copied & pasted this from a friend … who is going to do the same ???
Yes they’re horrible to wear, but if it’s to keep myself and everyone around me safe, I will do what I’ve been told by the people who are trying to get this virus under control and as I have, GET VACCINATED !! 💉💉 |
<quote tags added as post sourced from elsewhere – please include some such attribution in future for any content that's not your own. Thanks, David for BBMods.>
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What'sinaname 
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UK cases now seem to be coming down after the spike of 54,000 cases on July 17.
Even Netherlands is seeing the number of new cases on a downward trend.
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Pies4shaw 
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Let's check it in a few days. The UK's reporting typically goes down at the weekend. The deaths also purportedly dropped from 86 to 28 yesterday - this is about when they count things rather than what happened on their Saturday.
Similarly, the "spike" was an outlier. That's why I always review figures by reference to 7-day rolling averages where such large numbers are involved - that smooths out the spikes and troughs in the reporting.
One doesn't look for micro-trends - one needs to look at the overall direction of the data. At the moment, you'd say that the new reported case numbers are not getting dramatically worse over the last 4 or 5 days. Is that a trend? we'll know in a little while.
In the Netherlands, we know that they had a ridiculous spike in cases (7-day rolling average high of just over 10,000 just 18 days after the rolling average low of 588) and the Government then apologised for getting its advice wrong and significantly changed the rules.
Also, the figures come off the back of the European Championships (final was 12 July, our time). That's a sui generis event. I have no idea what positive or negative effect it will have had on figures. I do expect, though, that there will have been a reduction in large population mingling in the immediate aftermath. What that means for numbers, I don't know. Just exercise caution on these case numbers (up or down) for the time being. |
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| eddiesmith wrote: | | If you’ve still got massive problems at 50-60% vaccination rates, then nothing this government could have done that would have stopped these current lockdowns? |
Except, of course, implementing proper quarantine facilities for those entering the country, thereby stopping the delta variant from getting out into the community in the first place.
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Pies4shaw
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From the NSW Department of Heath (twitter):
| Quote: | | NSW recorded 145 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night. |
| Quote: | | Fifty-eight cases were in isolation throughout their infectious period and 25 cases were in isolation for part of their infectious period. Fifty-one cases were infectious in the community, and the isolation status of 11 cases remains under investigation. |
So, they had 58 cases under control, 25 partly under control, 51 completely out of control and 11 they have no idea about. Or, as I prefer, they had 87 that were either partly or wholly in the community during their infectious period or about which they know nothing.
In Victoria, there were 11 new cases. The Government says that "All new locally-acquired cases are linked to the current outbreaks, and all were in quarantine throughout their entire infectious period." |
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think positive
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that’s a really good read
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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What you think of the Push of Keeping Schools Open During Lockdown IF there no Covid Cases at the School?
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
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eddiesmith
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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| Schools should be remaining open, but Dopey thinks parents driving their kids to school is the most dangerous thing they can do… |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010
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Yep, the initial surge is just those unvaccinated getting infected. That will subside quickly as so long as death rates stay low, then all is good. |
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Pies4shaw
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From NWS Health's twitter:
| Quote: | | NSW recorded 172 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night. Of these locally acquired cases, 85 are linked to a known case or cluster – 66 are household contacts and 19 are close contacts – the source of infection for 87 cases is under investigation |
| Quote: | | Sixty-one cases were in isolation throughout their infectious period and 19 cases were in isolation for part of their infectious period. Sixty cases were infectious in the community, and the isolation status of 32 cases remains under investigation. |
So, at least 79 and up to 111 of the new NSW cases were infectious in the community for part or all of their infectious period. This is not good.
In Victoria, there were 10 new cases and, according to the Government, "all were in quarantine throughout their entire infectious period". I understand that lockdown will be ended but am waiting on detail about that. |
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