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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:08 am
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Aside from the fact that makes no sense, it’s not relevant, 100% professional sport should be a lot better at these things.

Andypuve heard of stopping a teams run yeah?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:16 am
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It’s relevant because there is a lot worse than a wrong decision early in the game!

The ball is also then deep in attack for Freo instead of going back to the centre, what happened at the next bounce?

At the end of th day, any side who is a supposed premiership chance shouldn’t be losing to Freo at home so don’t go blaming 1 umpiring mistake when there are clearly a lot more issues with Collingwood’s performance this week. I’m sure a review of the game would find mistakes that favoured Collingwood.

Players make a lot more mistakes than umpires or score reviewers and are paid a hell of a lot more money as well!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:27 am
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Saying that we didn’t deserve to win the game completely misses the point.The point is a team was awarded a goal they didn’t kick and it possibly cost the other team the game.It’s the sort of simple,basic mistake that shouldn’t happen in a professionally run competition.The A.F.L clearly isn’t a professionally run competition.It needs to get its act together before this sort of stuff up costs teams a grand final.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:36 am
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doriswilgus wrote:
Saying that we didn’t deserve to win the game completely misses the point.The point is a team was awarded a goal they didn’t kick and it possibly cost the other team the game.It’s the sort of simple,basic mistake that shouldn’t happen in a professionally run competition.The A.F.L clearly isn’t a professionally run competition.It needs to get its act together before this sort of stuff up costs teams a grand final.


exactly this!

it happened twice this weekend that they admit, the technology is there, and in our case, even the tv camera picked it up clear as day that Maynes fingers moved a lot! you cant fake that, you cant move your fingers back like that.

the recent tribunal decisions re the geelong players, the unbelievable inconsistency with the tribunal, the umpiring, its mind boggling. Barry hall played in a grand final because the AFL clearly needed a sydney win, its "good" for the national game. the non tanking melbourne fine, the fact that the paperbag scandal at Carlton was dealt with far more harshly that the drug cheat scandal at the bombers, seriously Hird might actually coach again??? the man should never be allowed on a footy field, ever. The bulldog grand final, wowee what team wouldnt like the golden umpire run they got? but hey, its good for football, thats all that matters. Its fricken rigged! its a disgrace.

I have never ever wanted anything for nothing, but i damn well want a fair go, I want an equal opportunity. Bloody hell we lost a grand final way back when because the umpire didnt hear the siren!! The mind boggles! Its not getting better, its getting far far worse.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:06 pm
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The problem is that people have been duped into thinking this private school boys’ club is a professional sporting organisation.

It’s a shambolic amateur operation led by an entitled sh!t talker and his grossly unqualified crew of bogan flunkies.

Most recent case in point (Mayne’s touched ‘goal’):

A) It’s a Foxtel only game
B) The 4K footage isn’t available to the review box*

* The Foxtel broadcast was available in my humble lounge room

OK, so what might a pre game course of action be? Hmm, I dunno, maybe confirm the broadcast details, have a broadcast feed into the box, use whatever vision is available, to make the correct call. Undergo proper due diligence before every damn game. Pretend to be somewhat professional in every aspect of this fancy toy called AFL that you have your unqualified grubby hands all over.

It’s this kind of amateurish garbage that makes one wonder how half these clowns get themselves out of bed and through the day.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:35 pm
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I'm concerned re HAL's absence. Have the AFL have stolen him and wired him into the Game Day Review technology? Might explain the glitches.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:22 am
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Another balls up decision at the G last night
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:07 am
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Not to be a devil’s advocate, but what exactly is the problem here? Of course it would be better if the goal review system had 100% accuracy (or something close to it). But if for whatever reason that’s not possible, what’s the alternative? Get rid of it and have an even higher incidence of human error? Clearly, having it ensures that most errors that were missed in the past are now being picked up; how many close games in the past were decided by missed calls like the Mayne one (would any umpire have ever called touched over the brush of a fingertip without access to video replay?) So it seems to me like a lot of griping about a technology that has, in many ways, improved the accuracy of umpiring decisions and hasn’t resulted in any real drawbacks (particularly now that the time delays aren’t as bad as they used to be).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:11 pm
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^ There is a huge problem.

Your argument makes a lot of sense but does not address the existence of a problem. Your argument instead shows why the solution is not to remove the technology but to improve the use of it. This can easily be done, at least by semi-competent people.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:43 pm
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AFL flags score review 'bunker' after third error in a week

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-06-08/afl-flags-score-review-bunker-after-third-error-in-two-weeks

"THE AFL has admitted a third error with the goal review system within the past seven days. ...

It was referred to the score review official, who failed to review a key piece of footage that showed the kick in fact cleared the padding and should have been awarded a goal.

That segment of footage was shown on the broadcast after the score review had taken place."
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:29 pm
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AFL's too busy banning fans for calling umpires "bald-headed flogs."
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:54 pm
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Raw Hammer wrote:
The problem is that people have been duped into thinking this private school boys’ club is a professional sporting organisation.

It’s a shambolic amateur operation led by an entitled sh!t talker and his grossly unqualified crew of bogan flunkies.

Most recent case in point (Mayne’s touched ‘goal’):

A) It’s a Foxtel only game
B) The 4K footage isn’t available to the review box*

* The Foxtel broadcast was available in my humble lounge room

OK, so what might a pre game course of action be? Hmm, I dunno, maybe confirm the broadcast details, have a broadcast feed into the box, use whatever vision is available, to make the correct call. Undergo proper due diligence before every damn game. Pretend to be somewhat professional in every aspect of this fancy toy called AFL that you have your unqualified grubby hands all over.

It’s this kind of amateurish garbage that makes one wonder how half these clowns get themselves out of bed and through the day.


this is the best comment I've seen on Nick's in a long time.

Absolutely spot on in all respects.

You have explained it perfectly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:06 pm
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Thing is with McLauchlin and his merry band of inept tards is, we have this thing called "Technology", where one can possibly mount cameras on top of the goals posts, angled down the inside of the post, providing a much better view of any ball-hit-the-post claims, or if the entire pill has even cleared the goal line, for that matter.

Perhaps a quick trip to Jaycar might be an idea, or are you flogs too busy sipping your latte's and f&cking with idiotic rule changes to consider this?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:15 pm
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'Moronic, embarrassing': League cuts goal reviewers

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/moronic-embarrassing-league-cuts-goal-reviewers-20190628-p522c3.html

"The AFL confirmed it had cut the number of reviewers from 15 to four over the past fortnight after reviewing the performances of the officials in charge of adjudicating the maligned system.
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The reputation of the goal review system is in tatters after a string of errors this season. There were reports this week the system was being run by AFL staffers, as opposed to specialists, which league chief Gillon McLachlan denied. They are being paid $250 per game."
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:37 pm
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Baum does not like technology:

Imperfection and the perfect storm

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/imperfection-and-the-perfect-storm-20190705-p524kv.html

"Cricket’s experience is that umpires overwhelmingly get it right anyway."


Huh? That's just wrong, at least for close run outs, which are the decisions that are closest to goal reviews.
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