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Pies2020
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| Given that Grundy has expressed a desire to return to South Australia some day what would the Crows or Port have to offer to make trading him worthwhile? |
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Geelong reportedly want three 1st-round picks for Kelly. Presumably, Adelaide or Port can stump up the 7 to 10 that would be appropriate for Grundy, based on a fair comparison of the relative merit of the two players.
Let's be plain about this - if Grundy were to leave, we would not get "value" for him. We'd get a couple of picks that we would turn into a couple more average-paced mids.
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Grundy would need 2 first round picks this year and 2 in each of the next two years....plus a sprinkling of other picks.
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I would have thought that if we offer 7 years right now its the same as offering 6 at the end of next year which is probably where we might end up anyway
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Still feels like player/agent posturing - which they are well within their rights to do.
The commentary around the “allure of going home” whilst at the same time wanting a 7 year deal is contradictory in nature. If the family pull of heading home was that strong why would he be willing to sign a 7 year deal on the spot?
That being said I hope it gets done soon |
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I get that players want their piece of the pie, but F me, surely they’re aware that if they chew up too much cap for too many years, team success ain’t what they’re going to achieve, cos there’s not enough pie to go around.
I’d really hope this group of players sees the potential of a flag in the next 1-3 years and acts accordingly re: contracts, otherwise F off. Grundy is good, but he’s not 7-years at $1M+ on our books good. The ruck rules will probably be changed again to nullify his dominance at some stage in the next few years anyway.
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | The ruck rules will probably be changed again to nullify his dominance at some stage in the next few years anyway. |
How are they going to bring in rules to stop him being an extra 20+ possession midfielder? Ruck rule changes have made it harder to ruck, bring on more because that is not where he is dominant.
He was a better player than Gawn even when Gawn got more hitouts. He has gone past him even on that front, we just need to better maximise it which is as much the midfield's responsibility as his.
Get Sier back in and De Goey for the centre breaks and we'll be better in clearances. Remember Queen's Birthday last year? De Goey had something like 7 clearances in the first quarter. |
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Doug44
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | The ruck rules will probably be changed again to nullify his dominance at some stage in the next few years anyway. |
How are they going to bring in rules to stop him being an extra 20+ possession midfielder? Ruck rule changes have made it harder to ruck, bring on more because that is not where he is dominant.
He was a better player than Gawn even when Gawn got more hitouts. He has gone past him even on that front, we just need to better maximise it which is as much the midfield's responsibility as his.
Get Sier back in and De Goey for the centre breaks and we'll be better in clearances. Remember Queen's Birthday last year? De Goey had something like 7 clearances in the first quarter. |
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Raw Hammer
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They brought in a centre circle line that destroyed Steve Mczkee’s career in an instant.
They brought in a sub rule that ruined our 2011 advantage when Podsiadly got injured. They scrapped the rule a few years later.
Colli GAO is dominated with interchange rotations...they capped it a few years later.
They’ll probably introduce a rule that says ruckman can’t grab a ball from a stoppage to minimise congestion or something ludicrous like that.
You underestimate the ineptitude of the AFL. Heck, they re-allowed hands on the back for defenders in a marking contest (James Clement rule), which totally destroyed Cox’s potential this season after scaring defenders in 2018 cos they weren’t allowed to nudge him u der the ball with hands.
Again, you underestimate the AFL and their knee jerk, cane-toad policies.
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Abdul The Bull
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | "Robbie D’Orazio, who represents Brodie Grundy, has provided an update on the Collingwood ruckman's contract situation."
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/10/01/management-provides-update-on-collingwood-star-grundy/
In short, Brodie's managment is "confident"of getting what he wants (namely, a 7-year deal), that Ned Guy has other priorities at the moment, that Brodie is in no rush and that contract discussions have been "parked" for the time being.
Otherwise, Brodie's manager is quoted as saying:
“We’ve had clubs enquire already, and you expect them to. They wouldn’t be doing their job if they weren’t making enquiries.
“We’re comfortable sitting down with the Pies at some stage to try and get something done there and if not, then we’ll look at other options."
Fairly much what you'd expect him to say, really. |
In other words.... The Pies want to make a deal but need to juggle other obligations to free up their contractual position to do so. Wait for a few delistings, retirements and trades before we see Brody ink a new 7 year deal. I am confident that it will get done.
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Pies2020
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | Geelong reportedly want three 1st-round picks for Kelly. Presumably, Adelaide or Port can stump up the 7 to 10 that would be appropriate for Grundy, based on a fair comparison of the relative merit of the two players.
Let's be plain about this - if Grundy were to leave, we would not get "value" for him. We'd get a couple of picks that we would turn into a couple more average-paced mids. |
As we're in the premiership window we would be more interested in getting players who'd walk straight into our best 22 and make it stronger. So if we were dealing with the South Australian teams I think we'd either be looking to get experienced players from them, or be looking to use the picks they gave us to trade for experienced players from other clubs.
So is it possible to make a trade involving Grundy that would make us a better team?
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| masoncox wrote: | You would want 1 top 5 pick and a top 10 pick and a decent player.
That sounds right. |
Both things the Crows and Power dont have.
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