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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:33 pm
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Great piece from a Stanford Chinese history prof, not some Guardian hack.

How China went from celebrating ethnic diversity to suppressing it.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/10/china-celebrating-diversity-suppressing-xinjiang-communist-party

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:15 pm
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Rundle, as always, has a pretty interesting take on many of the questions being wrestled with in this thread:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/06/10/australia-china-g7/

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There is much to condemn in China, true. Pointing out that its rise out of imperialist-era poverty was achieved by ignoring almost everything the Washington consensus gang advised to, and imposed on, developing states — and is a heroic achievement of humankind — shouldn’t blind us to the fact that its continued authoritarianism is not merely generally repressive — an arguably justifiable strategy at this stage — but specifically racist, as regards the Uyghurs and others.

China, now, is sui generis. It is somewhat Marxist, somewhat capitalist, and somewhat of a normalised fascism. But we can’t say this was anything new. Its post-1979 Marxist “transitional” dirigisme was always tilted towards Han Chinese expansion within the country. No one raised a peep for decades.

Our self-interest would be best expressed by relentless sycophancy to the Chinese miracle, and utter silence on human rights. We’re the country who has become most utterly dependent on China. Well, except for the United States of course — and there’s the rub.

It was all “look at the gleaming towers of Shanghai”, and how Deng Xiaoping is a Carpenters fan, etc. So there is something weird about us having to be the muggins who calls out the big panda. We have the most to lose from angering it — and we are losing at the moment.

There is no “Chistralia” — we’re simply dependent. But there is a “Chimerica” with mutual interdependence based on China propping up US global dominance by currency, so that China’s US debt holdings are not immediately and catastrophically devalued.

That is holding off not merely greater conflict but the creation of a global China-India-etc-led pool currency to replace the greenback. That indicates a fascinating paradox about the course of the global liberal order. In one respect, the free-trade liberals were right.

Global interdependency has made war that much more difficult; everyone’s making money like bandits and don’t want to lose the grift. But far from promoting freedom, free trade ensures its opposite. It makes real objection to another nation’s murderous oppression impossible.

National self-sufficiency, to the greatest degree possible, is not merely a wise strategy in terms of survival, it allows for a real moral stand, and to stand up for oppressed groups within other countries. The noises we are making on Chinese human rights are just so much chin music.

I’m emphatically not saying that we shouldn’t make them for reasons of hypocrisy, not lecturing Asians, etc. I’m saying we, and others, gave away the capacity to give such pronouncements weight decades ago, and we all knew exactly what we were doing.

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To put it in the bluntest realpolitik, a US-Australian alliance in such circumstances would rely on “whiteness” (or “non-East Asianness”) to bind it together. By those two decades hence, we will be a far more Eurasian nation than now. Even if we wanted to draw on that icky possibility, it may not be open to us. And the US may be changed substantially: a post-democratic isolationist nation, happy to hand over the hemisphere.

These events are already under way. However we prepare for them, the very worst way, it would seem, is to be the West’s official entry, null points, at this new song and dance spectacular.

In the short term we need to stay out of any and all American wars and “forward defences” — especially the very forward defence of ending up in a Chinese sea, between a rebel province Chinese island and a Chinese mainland — and, should total geopolitical conflict threaten in a couple of decades, make the fundamental decision to either let the US completely take us over in military terms, or admit that the place is indefensible and consider how and under what conditions we would acquiesce to a mass demographic realignment, and consider the project known as “Australia” to now be superseded.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:51 am
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I normally rate Rundle's pieces but that one is really a bit meh.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:27 pm
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Good opinion piece here about how China is shifting it's focus from wealth creation to wealth re-distribution.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/billionaire-crackdown-china-s-new-pathway-to-mao-s-common-prosperity-20210824-p58lf9.html

Summary is that for decades China has been following the policy of wealth creation by letting some people get very rich. Now they've clearly decided they're rich enough and have started putting controls in place over the tech sector and "encouraging" billionaires to "donate" cash to good causes. Most of them seem to have seen how the dud who owns AliBaba had his ears pinned back and are falling over each other to comply.

it will be interesting to see what happens, whether there's any push back or running with the cash or just plain economic downturn.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:22 am
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This Bloomberg piece will confirm what you already know. The problem is that no official inter/national body is seriously addressing and exposing international cyber attack information because everyone's doing it (some obviously much more than others, though), and everyone wants to reserve the right to do it, leaving countries like Australia highly vulnerable. International standards and treaties are a must right now.

Essentially, it's low-level warfare but without public scrutiny. We already know about the secretive drone attacks. The step from drones to more sophisticated robots isn't that great. It's all cybersecurity now, and no one is pushing governments to address the matter in the public sphere.

However, if you take the fist-waving evil China and Russia line, as if this is only a problem associated with hostile powers, you'll lose the real battle here. This is an international problem that needs an international solution.

People need to demand more transparency from their own governments on cyber attacks generally (regardless of who is doing them to whom), or the problem will keep being swept under the rug and cyber-defence farmed out to shadowy firms, much like the ones paid billions to 'train' the Afghanistan army.

That way lies losses from both the authoritarians and chancers without, and the usual scumbag grifters within. It's a new arms race building up under the BS cover of national security. Imagine all the slimy backroom deals that accompany it already.

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“China’s cyber reach is detectable on almost every government server,” Potter said. “It isn’t subtle and it increases and decreases in a way that correlates to our overall relationship.”

Beijing’s retaliation against Australia’s repeated calls for an international probe is a clear example of what can happen to even the wealthiest nations if they annoy China enough, according to people familiar with the situation.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-08-30/covid-origin-probe-calls-australian-government-businesses-universities-hacked[/quote]

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Interesting read on the little revolution quietly happening at the moment in China. Ole Xi is stamping his image on stuff.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-03/xi-jinpings-government-turns-against-capitalism-fame-and-tutors/100421752

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It takes a tremendous amount of political power to successfully destroy millions of jobs and bankrupt large companies with a single decision.

And it takes an even more extraordinary level of power, unseen in modern times, for those most affected to stay publicly silent about it.

And yet that's where Xi Jinping's China is at.

Last month, with a sudden, jarring policy announcement designed to ease the financial burden on families paying for extra tuition for children, he decimated the country's private tutoring sector that is estimated to employ 10 million people.


Apart from that, he recently wiped billions in value off Tech companies, now he's really getting paternalistic.

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A swiftly implemented regulation this week will limit minors to three hours of online gaming per week over one-hour fixed blocs on weekend evenings.

The big tech companies affected, including Tencent, have offered no criticism of a plan formed with good intentions, but implemented with a very restrictive and paternalistic framework.


The way I read that, it's not just a recomendation to limit on line gaming to 3 hours a week but he's making the tech companies enforce it.



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In education, aside from shutting down for-profit extra-curricular tutoring firms, Xi has also introduced his ideology, called "Xi Jinping Thought" into primary schools this week.

The textbook features his image prominently and teaches children that "Grandpa Xi always cares about us".


Look at the pictures, that's straight child brainwashing.

But wait, there's more

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n entertainment, the downfall of high-profile stars for various reasons has coincided with a slew of new restrictions for performers and their fans, a direct intervention to steer China's culture industry in a "healthier" direction.

Such interventions have been prevalent during Xi's nine years in power.

For example, he banned the display of male earrings and tattoos on performers and sports stars in 2018.

But on September 2, he went further via China's National Radio and Television Administration, which published guidelines urging broadcasters to stop programs portraying "effeminate" behaviour and other "warped" content.


Grandpa Xi don't like these nancy boys.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:36 pm
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It really is amazing that he has that much power. Mindboggling.

It's also hilarious in that way only dictators can be.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:23 pm
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^If the authoritarianism doesn't register, you hope the absurdity at least starts to cause national cringe at some point.
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