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Harrysz 



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:38 pm
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Essendon may have had poor governance, and they paid dearly for it, being excluded from the finals; but no one could prove that any one player took any one banned substance.
This is a good outcome for the AFL and for the competition.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:43 pm
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Disagree. Competition and its commission now seen as corrupt as a third-world police force.

Absolute disgrace.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:47 pm
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$$$ is the Reason the Bummers got Off

I HAVE LOST ALL RESPECT FOR THE AFL AND OUR GREAT GAME IS NOW A OFFICAL JOKE

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:50 pm
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"not comfortably satisfied ..."
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:50 pm
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John Wren wrote:
"not comfortably satisfied ..."


A Stupid Get Out Clause Rolling Eyes

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John Wren Virgo

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:53 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
John Wren wrote:
"not comfortably satisfied ..."


A Stupid Get Out Clause Rolling Eyes


the tribunal had some suitably qualified people assessing the situation.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:09 pm
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It's a terrible outcome and sets a shocking precedent for future scenarios involving other sporting clubs.

Essendon are clearly guilty of poor governance and while there was insufficient evidence to prove them of such guilt in terms of their players using banned substances this doesn't mean they're innocent of any charges, it just means it couldn't be proven sadly.

When records of a players supplementation are not recorded (which demonstrates poor governance) then how on earth was ASADA going to prove absolute guilt towards the 34 past and present Essendon players plus it didn't help that Essendon kept hindering ASADA's investigation at every turn rather than cooperating with them.

Sadly I'm not surprised by the outcome and I think this is a tragedy for football to be honest! A systematic doping regime by a whole football club has resulted in no punishments and yet two of our own players are going to get severely punished and rightly so if there b sample tests are shown to be 'positive' but the mind boggles sometimes.

It's a crap day all round! No one should be satisfied about this.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:11 pm
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Though I just re-read that Statement.

Players are Clear but not the Club itself

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:11 pm
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It ain't over yet. I believe ASADA can appeal and in addition WADA can come over the top of all of them and go BANG!.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:13 pm
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What a disgrace. Absolutely disgusting. Anyone who thinks this is "a good outcome for the AFL and the Competition" is a clueless tool.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:17 pm
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Whatever masking agent they used..... Lance Armstrong wants in...!!!

at least it's over.... I'm the first one to have wanted them bent over, but without a positive test it was always going to be hard to nail them...

In Keeffe & Thomas' case, it's far more black and white, pardon the pun. The tested positive and regardless of where it came from, intentional or not, they will suffer the consequences and it will be swift.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:17 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Though I just re-read that Statement.

Players are Clear but not the Club itself

Could you link the statement Dave.

melliot wrote:
It ain't over yet. I believe ASADA can appeal and in addition WADA can come over the top of all of them and go BANG!.

Yes I think WADA can appeal the outcome which I hope they do. This outcome is unjust!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:19 pm
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Makes the AFL look like idiots.

So long as you can hide the evidence (or in Danks case not be compelled to give evidence) you can get away with anything.

Now watch the AFL come down hard on Thomas & Keefe to prove they are actually anti PEDs .

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:20 pm
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Dark Beanie wrote:
Makes the AFL look like idiots.

So long as you can hide the evidence (or in Danks case not be compelled to give evidence) you can get away with anything.

Now watch the AFL come down hard on Thomas & Keefe to prove they are actually anti PEDs .


Keeping it all Private and Behind Closed Doors makes it look even more Dodgy Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:27 pm
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I'm not surprised if all they knew was what the public knew. Didn't think they'd be found guilty. I've got no doubt the club (hierarchy) are guilty but sympathised with the players and supporters. I think they were duped
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