Pre match. Pies v. Dockers - All comments please

[Bob Sugar]

NB. Defender and others. If you're starting a topic about an upcoming match, please include the relevant details - When, where etc. Donny.

Thursday.

Collingwood v. Fremantle

Domain. 6.10 (local)

Let's hear ya !!

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I reckon Greenwood has to be the sub, he may not be able to run out a full hame yet but he's far and away better than any of the other sub candidates, lock that in.

Degoey: he hasn't set the world on fire but he hasn't been bad either, he just doesn't get enough of it at AFL level ATM, but with a perth trip coming up I'd like to see him retained just for the experience.

Seedsman: probably makes way for Blair, Subiaco would suit his game style though.

Kennedy: if they're worried about him running out a full game then he definately won't get picked for a Perth trip.

In: Blair-Greenwood (sub)

Out: Seedsman-Kennedy (both omitted)

[RudeBoy]

Hard to argue with any of that defender. I guess it will in part depend on how the VFL squad performs this week.

[Tannin]

Good post, Defender.

I'd rather someone with more pace than Blair against the Eagles on that ground, either Kennedy or Seedsman, probably Kennedy as Seedy is obviously NQR. But that won't happen.

Goldsack is the other worry. He's obviously not right, he played at three-quarter pace on Sunday. If the week off is enough to get him right, he's worth his weight in gold to our inexperienced defence, but if he's not back in perfect shape, leave him out and take Marsh over instead. Bit of height, bit of pace, that's a like-for-like replacement.

Oh, one other thing: if you are going to take a player in who isn't up for four quarters yet, there is absolutely no reason why he has to be the sub. It makes no difference whether you sub Greenwood in halfway through the game or sub him out half-way through the game, either way he plays a half. Of course, you may have to bring on your sub at any time to cover an injury, leaving Greenwood to play four quarters. Equally, if he is the sub, he may have to come on in the first ten minutes and play all day for that same reason. In short: if you are going to play someone for half a game, it really doesn't matter whether he starts on the ground or in the vest.

[John Wren]

vfl has the bye. greenwood won't be playing afl against freo. it's fanciful to expect him to do so after 3/4 of a game in the vfl.

[RudeBoy]

[Bob Sugar]

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[Bob Sugar]

I'm sure all the guys who need work will get it over the weekend.

[Dangles]

We're gonna need pace at Subi, so I'd be keeping Kennedy and Seedsman. Greenwood shouldn't be rushed into the seniors until he's gotten through at least two full VFL games and played well in them. If you make him the sub against Freo and someone goes down in the first five minutes Greenwood won't run out the game.

[Tannin]

What is the story with Grundy? Is he likely to be right to go? If so, do we play both rucks?

[Pies2016]

Pies have been ultra conservative with injury management this year and it's working out ok. Forget Greenwoods possessions, it's about the miles in the legs and getting used to the tempo.
12 weeks out injured and half a comeback game in VFL doesn't cut it against the best on Subiaco. Let's get him right so that he is cherry ripe for last third of the home and aways.
Blair in for Seedsman and Degoey in the vest ( subject to hand ) would be my thoughts.

[inxs88]

Bucks has a stringent and conservative policy for all injured players on the comeback trail. Just look at the previous examples:

1. Karnezis (1.25 seasons until he debuted)
2. Reid (not in plans till July)
3. Scharenberg (6 games back: still yet to be picked)
4. Broomhead (paid his dues in magoos)
5. Kennedy (first game was rd 10!)
6. Grundy (in 2013/2014 spent several matches in reserves)
7. Witts (played in reserves in first 6 games this year)
8. J Marsh (still yet to debut while he "learns" the game)

So don't see Greenwood getting a hall pass through to the seniors any time soon!

[swoop42]

Not so sure.

Outside of Reid Greenwood has many more runs on the board in terms of quality AFL performances than all the other names you've mentioned and hasn't had the same ongoing soft tissue concerns as Reid.

I reckon if Greenwood can play 4 quarters next VFL round and play decent he's a good shot of coming in for the hawks even if it's only as the sub.

[swoop42]