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Pies4shaw 
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Trump has finally told the truth about something, after a fashion. Last Sunday, he revised his forecast of up to 60,000 total deaths from COVID-19 to “anywhere from 75, 80, to 100,000 people”. That was a very prescient call - the country had reached his 60,000 3 days earlier!!!
By Thursday (and with counting not closed for their day), they’re at 76,684 deaths.
So, he’s right about the 75,000. By Saturday (their time), he’s going to be right about the 80,000. Unfortunately, by the 20th of May, it’s all going to become a fib again as the USA whizzes past 100,000 deaths.
That, by the way, looks like a conservative estimate - in a couple of hours, the US will have over one million active cases. The numbers are getting back near 30,000 new cases per day (probably much higher, in truth) and the serious/critical cases present total is at 17,000. |
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watt price tully 
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | Trump has finally told the truth about something, after a fashion. Last Sunday, he revised his forecast of up to 60,000 total deaths from COVID-19 to “anywhere from 75, 80, to 100,000 people”. That was a very prescient call - the country had reached his 60,000 3 days earlier!!!
By Thursday (and with counting not closed for their day), they’re at 76,684 deaths.
So, he’s right about the 75,000. By Saturday (their time), he’s going to be right about the 80,000. Unfortunately, by the 20th of May, it’s all going to become a fib again as the USA whizzes past 100,000 deaths.
That, by the way, looks like a conservative estimate - in a couple of hours, the US will have over one million active cases. The numbers are getting back near 30,000 new cases per day (probably much higher, in truth) and the serious/critical cases present total is at 17,000. |
.....and now...shelving the medical advice on how and when to re-open the US economy he look forward to more deaths. Sweden can be his exemplar about not closing the economy.
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Those US death figures from COVID are overstated
In NY State for example
2019 deaths Mid March - Mid April from flu, homicide, accidents, heart disease, cancer was 13,000
2020 deaths Mid March - Mid April from the same source was 5,000. Yet COVID deaths are 11,000 in this period.
Sure, homocide and road accidents would drop with isolation, but cancer, heart related deaths, flu etc should be higher in 2020.
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Pies4shaw
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They aren't over-stated. The general view is that they are understated.
The comparison between 2019 and 2020 is inapt - the figures dribble in over months. You will find that the other categories of death increase. Given that the coronial and like services have been over-run, you'd expect the lag this year to be even longer than usual. There might be some reductions occasioned by the lockdowns in some categories, as a result of "externality effects" (the circumstances of ordinary life in March 2019 and March 2020 are not comparable - eg, it's harder than usual to get drunk in a bar and be run over by a garbage truck at 4 am if there are no open bars).
Of course, the same lag in recording deaths is part of the reason that epidemiologists think the death counts for OVID-19 are under-stated. |
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watt price tully
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | They aren't over-stated. The general view is that they are understated.
The comparison between 2019 and 2020 is inapt - the figures dribble in over months. You will find that the other categories of death increase. Given that the coronial and like services have been over-run, you'd expect the lag this year to be even longer than usual. There might be some reductions occasioned by the lockdowns in some categories, as a result of "externality effects" (the circumstances of ordinary life in March 2019 and March 2020 are not comparable - eg, it's harder than usual to get drunk in a bar and be run over by a garbage truck at 4 am if there are no open bars).
Of course, the same lag in recording deaths is part of the reason that epidemiologists think the death counts for OVID-19 are under-stated. |
Correct weight.
The best thing that could be done in the US currently with respect to deaths from Corona Virus is for Trump to immediately resign. To continue with Trump and his current way is mass death by policy.
Simply appalling behaviour.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/genocide-by-default-america-prepares-for-a-brutal-coronavirus-slow-burn-20200508-p54qzc.html
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Pies4shaw
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| watt price tully wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | They aren't over-stated. The general view is that they are understated.
The comparison between 2019 and 2020 is inapt - the figures dribble in over months. You will find that the other categories of death increase. Given that the coronial and like services have been over-run, you'd expect the lag this year to be even longer than usual. There might be some reductions occasioned by the lockdowns in some categories, as a result of "externality effects" (the circumstances of ordinary life in March 2019 and March 2020 are not comparable - eg, it's harder than usual to get drunk in a bar and be run over by a garbage truck at 4 am if there are no open bars).
Of course, the same lag in recording deaths is part of the reason that epidemiologists think the death counts for OVID-19 are under-stated. |
Correct weight.
The best thing that could be done in the US currently with respect to deaths from Corona Virus is for Trump to immediately resign. To continue with Trump and his current way is mass death by policy.
Simply appalling behaviour.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/genocide-by-default-america-prepares-for-a-brutal-coronavirus-slow-burn-20200508-p54qzc.html |
Interesting. Someone else using the “G” word. |
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Pies4shaw
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | Trump has finally told the truth about something, after a fashion. Last Sunday, he revised his forecast of up to 60,000 total deaths from COVID-19 to “anywhere from 75, 80, to 100,000 people”. That was a very prescient call - the country had reached his 60,000 3 days earlier!!!
By Thursday (and with counting not closed for their day), they’re at 76,684 deaths.
So, he’s right about the 75,000. By Saturday (their time), he’s going to be right about the 80,000. Unfortunately, by the 20th of May, it’s all going to become a fib again as the USA whizzes past 100,000 deaths.
That, by the way, looks like a conservative estimate - in a couple of hours, the US will have over one million active cases. The numbers are getting back near 30,000 new cases per day (probably much higher, in truth) and the serious/critical cases present total is at 17,000. |
And there it is. 80,004 deaths in the US. It's 6.56 pm, Saturday in Washington DC. |
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| Wokko wrote: | https://babylonbee.com/news/inspiring-painter-creates-moving-art-pieces-showing-jesuss-influence-on-the-trump-presidency
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Very good.
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It isn't Trump's job to predict the number of deaths from Coronavirus. The job should be left to Dr Fauci and Dr Birx. Several of Trump's former campaign advisers are saying the same thing.
You never witnessed Churchill or FDR predict the number of deaths that would occur in WWII.
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Pies4shaw
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| It’s certainly not his job to keep lying about it, Jezza. |
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| Jezza wrote: | It isn't Trump's job to predict the number of deaths from Coronavirus. The job should be left to Dr Fauci and Dr Birx. Several of Trump's former campaign advisers are saying the same thing.
You never witnessed Churchill or FDR predict the number of deaths that would occur in WWII. |
P4S was doing the numbers for them on his abacus
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Pies4shaw
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| I couldn’t have helped them with those numbers - unlike Trump, it wasn’t all their own fault. They had a competent enemy. Trump is just standing in a revolving door, whacking himself with a stick. |
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watt price tully
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | It’s certainly not his job to keep lying about it, Jezza. |
Really 
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