 |
|
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Do I still want E McGuire as President of my football club? |
| Yes - still the best person for the job |
|
38% |
[ 47 ] |
| No - has run his race and we need fresh ideas |
|
61% |
[ 76 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 123 |
|
| Author |
Message |
watt price tully 
Joined: 15 May 2007
|
| Post subject: |  |
|
| RudeBoy wrote: | | Member 7167 wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | I've been a big supporter of Ed over the years & I think on balance he's done a marvellous job. His positives have outweighed his negatives, that's for sure.
However, Ed has been there a long time, the Malthouse Buckley transition at this point in time has been a standout failure in my opinion.
I just think he has been in the position a long long time now, his time is up or coming up & it's to move on. Time to renew and re-energise.
Go Pies |
The chances of it failing increased dramatically when MM refused to live up to his contract and left the club. MM never supported Buckley after he joined the club as an assistant coach.
The decision to do what they did was based upon MM remaining at the club. If you want to blame anyone for the failure I would be looking at MM first and foremost. If he was honest with the club from the start chances are that they would have taken a different strategy. |
To be honest, I no longer care one way or another who was at fault, who did what, or who should have done this or that. The past is the past. I'm solely interested in the here and now and our immediate future. On that score I reckon we have the right people in place. All we need now are a couple of good KPPs.  |
McGuire: can't kick, doesn't know how to handball & did his preseason during the home & away rounds
_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
|
|
|
 |
thesoretoothsayer
Joined: 26 Apr 2017
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| watt price tully wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | Member 7167 wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | I've been a big supporter of Ed over the years & I think on balance he's done a marvellous job. His positives have outweighed his negatives, that's for sure.
However, Ed has been there a long time, the Malthouse Buckley transition at this point in time has been a standout failure in my opinion.
I just think he has been in the position a long long time now, his time is up or coming up & it's to move on. Time to renew and re-energise.
Go Pies |
The chances of it failing increased dramatically when MM refused to live up to his contract and left the club. MM never supported Buckley after he joined the club as an assistant coach.
The decision to do what they did was based upon MM remaining at the club. If you want to blame anyone for the failure I would be looking at MM first and foremost. If he was honest with the club from the start chances are that they would have taken a different strategy. |
To be honest, I no longer care one way or another who was at fault, who did what, or who should have done this or that. The past is the past. I'm solely interested in the here and now and our immediate future. On that score I reckon we have the right people in place. All we need now are a couple of good KPPs. |
McGuire: can't kick, doesn't know how to handball & did his preseason during the home & away rounds |
 Very true. But if Ed were playing he would arrange the final score before he ran out onto the field. |
|
|
|
|
watt price tully
Joined: 15 May 2007
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Member 7167 wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | I've been a big supporter of Ed over the years & I think on balance he's done a marvellous job. His positives have outweighed his negatives, that's for sure.
However, Ed has been there a long time, the Malthouse Buckley transition at this point in time has been a standout failure in my opinion.
I just think he has been in the position a long long time now, his time is up or coming up & it's to move on. Time to renew and re-energise.
Go Pies |
The chances of it failing increased dramatically when MM refused to live up to his contract and left the club. MM never supported Buckley after he joined the club as an assistant coach.
The decision to do what they did was based upon MM remaining at the club. If you want to blame anyone for the failure I would be looking at MM first and foremost. If he was honest with the club from the start chances are that they would have taken a different strategy. |
In other words the deal maker didn't put the deal through properly. For me that is one aspect of his presidency. Times up IMO. Ed's done a tremendous job & got us a premiership. I'll be eternally grateful.
However, it's time for him to step down graciously.
At the same time I want Bucks & Ed to succeed. By Ed's own admission through the review the club didn't properly support Bucks. Where does the buck stop? If Gary Pert is an answer then to what extent was the role of the CEO allowed to under- perform by the board (read Eddie) ?
Times up imo.
_________________
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
|
|
|
|
Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Piesnchess wrote: | | glasseyevfx wrote: | click bait for knockers and trolls. Having a high profile Pres has done us nothing but good. I'll happily wear the rubbish that comes out of Mark Robinson to have Eddie in. What was that last night on 360? "Eddie has linked himself to Buckleys success" - what a muppet. Speculating and stirring is his stock in trade - the fact he said it means we have a good Pres. The argument is a drawing a long bow to begin with.
The really funny thing is without taking a breath he and Gerard gloss over Brad Scotts new contract at North without mention of their Pres. Didn't we finish above them on the ladder? Have we not had a Premiership more recently? How is that not Bias.
I like watching 360 and Mark for a laugh but there's not doubt that Mark Robinson is the biggest caricature in Australian Journalism (even more than so than Sam Newman) - Just cannot take him seriously. |
Yeh, Robbo is a total flog, on Sat morning the Magpie hating swine said on SEN, that the Pies v Dees game, could get "very very ugly for the PIes, could be a real thrashing today for them by the Deeees " LOL, the moron knows zilch about footy, admin, anything, far less that Caro even, at least Caro has a semblance of intelligent research. !
As for our Eddie, I thought he may have resigned by this time, but he didn't, but I really think, that at the end of next season, he should give some serious thought to moving on gracefully, and handing the baton over to a worthy candidate, someone like Craig Kelly, for instance. |
I just watch 360 occasionally but cant take him seriously. I live from Bendigo (where Robbo worked at the Bendigo Advertiser for many years) and if people only knew about his behaviour here before he got into the "big time", they will be bloody appalled to say the least. I knew it and saw it first hand. He is a total bloody wanker. I see to it that what he writes or says about anything is not taken seriously and I don't make it my business to comment on such rubbish from a serial offender. A total waste of time and effort 
_________________
Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
|
|
|
|
dalyc
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Lazza wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | glasseyevfx wrote: | click bait for knockers and trolls. Having a high profile Pres has done us nothing but good. I'll happily wear the rubbish that comes out of Mark Robinson to have Eddie in. What was that last night on 360? "Eddie has linked himself to Buckleys success" - what a muppet. Speculating and stirring is his stock in trade - the fact he said it means we have a good Pres. The argument is a drawing a long bow to begin with.
The really funny thing is without taking a breath he and Gerard gloss over Brad Scotts new contract at North without mention of their Pres. Didn't we finish above them on the ladder? Have we not had a Premiership more recently? How is that not Bias.
I like watching 360 and Mark for a laugh but there's not doubt that Mark Robinson is the biggest caricature in Australian Journalism (even more than so than Sam Newman) - Just cannot take him seriously. |
Yeh, Robbo is a total flog, on Sat morning the Magpie hating swine said on SEN, that the Pies v Dees game, could get "very very ugly for the PIes, could be a real thrashing today for them by the Deeees " LOL, the moron knows zilch about footy, admin, anything, far less that Caro even, at least Caro has a semblance of intelligent research. !
As for our Eddie, I thought he may have resigned by this time, but he didn't, but I really think, that at the end of next season, he should give some serious thought to moving on gracefully, and handing the baton over to a worthy candidate, someone like Craig Kelly, for instance. |
I just watch 360 occasionally but cant take him seriously. I live from Bendigo (where Robbo worked at the Bendigo Advertiser for many years) and if people only knew about his behaviour here before he got into the "big time", they will be bloody appalled to say the least. I knew it and saw it first hand. He is a total bloody wanker. I see to it that what he writes or says about anything is not taken seriously and I don't make it my business to comment on such rubbish from a serial offender. A total waste of time and effort |
Do tell Lazza, do tell!
_________________
Four legged animals good, two legged animals better |
|
|
|
|
Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| dalyc wrote: | | Lazza wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | glasseyevfx wrote: | click bait for knockers and trolls. Having a high profile Pres has done us nothing but good. I'll happily wear the rubbish that comes out of Mark Robinson to have Eddie in. What was that last night on 360? "Eddie has linked himself to Buckleys success" - what a muppet. Speculating and stirring is his stock in trade - the fact he said it means we have a good Pres. The argument is a drawing a long bow to begin with.
The really funny thing is without taking a breath he and Gerard gloss over Brad Scotts new contract at North without mention of their Pres. Didn't we finish above them on the ladder? Have we not had a Premiership more recently? How is that not Bias.
I like watching 360 and Mark for a laugh but there's not doubt that Mark Robinson is the biggest caricature in Australian Journalism (even more than so than Sam Newman) - Just cannot take him seriously. |
Yeh, Robbo is a total flog, on Sat morning the Magpie hating swine said on SEN, that the Pies v Dees game, could get "very very ugly for the PIes, could be a real thrashing today for them by the Deeees " LOL, the moron knows zilch about footy, admin, anything, far less that Caro even, at least Caro has a semblance of intelligent research. !
As for our Eddie, I thought he may have resigned by this time, but he didn't, but I really think, that at the end of next season, he should give some serious thought to moving on gracefully, and handing the baton over to a worthy candidate, someone like Craig Kelly, for instance. |
I just watch 360 occasionally but cant take him seriously. I live from Bendigo (where Robbo worked at the Bendigo Advertiser for many years) and if people only knew about his behaviour here before he got into the "big time", they will be bloody appalled to say the least. I knew it and saw it first hand. He is a total bloody wanker. I see to it that what he writes or says about anything is not taken seriously and I don't make it my business to comment on such rubbish from a serial offender. A total waste of time and effort |
Do tell Lazza, do tell! |
Lets just say that alcohol was his best friend, followed closely by female "acquaintances" that may or may not have been acquainted with other male human beings. His conduct at work (according to a friend of mine who worked with him) made an idiot of their so called code of conduct. Enough said without getting into trouble I think.
_________________
Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
|
|
|
|
CarringbushCigar 
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: wherever I lay my beanie
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Lucky I ducked !
Was that the 'first stone' ? |
|
|
|
|
Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Robbo reminds me of Barnaby Joyce, pissed as a fart most of the time. !
_________________
Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
|
|
|
|
Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Don't you mean the Dictator instead of President
_________________
I am Da Man |
|
|
|
|
Collingwood Crackerjack
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Canberra
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Didn't we just do we one of these 2 months ago?
I've made my views on Eds continued tenure clear enough previously, don't see any need to rehash it
woops, turns out its the same thread.....I'm an idiot
_________________
"The last thing he expected WAS THE FIRST THING HE GOT!!!!!"
Collingwood Crackerjack, 1992 |
|
|
|
|
WarrenerraW
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Ed needs to move on and give someone else a go. His time is up and we could use some fresh perspective and ideas around the club. We look stale and out of date compared to other teams. I acknowledge what he's achieved for the club but he has made some awful errors of judgement and blunders along the way. I get the feeling he won't leave until Buckley becomes a success and who knows when or if that will be. The club should be employing the best talent and not 'mates of mcguire'. |
|
|
|
|
Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| WarrenerraW wrote: | | Ed needs to move on and give someone else a go. His time is up and we could use some fresh perspective and ideas around the club. We look stale and out of date compared to other teams. I acknowledge what he's achieved for the club but he has made some awful errors of judgement and blunders along the way. I get the feeling he won't leave until Buckley becomes a success and who knows when or if that will be. The club should be employing the best talent and not 'mates of mcguire'. |
IM hoping we do make the Finals next season, win one final, show huge improvement, then Ed gracefully bows out, and hands over to, say, Craig Kelly. Perfect scenario. 
_________________
Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
|
|
|
|
think positive 
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Location: somewhere
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Lazza wrote: | | Redlight wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: |
Haven't character references been used in the past???
I seem to remember they have, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, Why did our president have to jump in.
Couldn't someone else jump in?
Distracts from our focus.
It is why I would like a background President that is invisible to the media . |
I don't understand this thinking. An invisible President? Why is that high on your priority list? Perhaps it's because you're embarrassed by the criticism that comes from non-Collingwood people?
I can't imagine why anyone would care what Caroline Wilson or Mark Robinson might think, what bile they might publish.
He cops so much criticism because - news flash - people hate Collingwood, and they hate Eddie because he happens to be a very visible Collingwood president.
Forget the mountain out of a molehill stuff, his profile has brought a ton of of sponsorship and a lot positive coverage to our Club.
His high profile is a godsend. You should be grateful. |
My own belief is that what others think of me, my club, my work etc is none of MY business. Offence is taken, not given.
We should all use the garbage can more to put this crap into and close the lid. End of problem. |
Nope that quote belongs in the garbage. If someone says something knowing full well it will offend you, and that's the only reason they say it, stand up and call them out. Some people are just trolling arseholes. And just like the school bully, they hide when you call them out.
_________________
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
|
|
|
|
derkd
Joined: 29 May 2013
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| watt price tully wrote: | | Member 7167 wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | I've been a big supporter of Ed over the years & I think on balance he's done a marvellous job. His positives have outweighed his negatives, that's for sure.
However, Ed has been there a long time, the Malthouse Buckley transition at this point in time has been a standout failure in my opinion.
I just think he has been in the position a long long time now, his time is up or coming up & it's to move on. Time to renew and re-energise.
Go Pies |
The chances of it failing increased dramatically when MM refused to live up to his contract and left the club. MM never supported Buckley after he joined the club as an assistant coach.
The decision to do what they did was based upon MM remaining at the club. If you want to blame anyone for the failure I would be looking at MM first and foremost. If he was honest with the club from the start chances are that they would have taken a different strategy. |
In other words the deal maker didn't put the deal through properly. For me that is one aspect of his presidency. Times up IMO. Ed's done a tremendous job & got us a premiership. I'll be eternally grateful.
However, it's time for him to step down graciously.
At the same time I want Bucks & Ed to succeed. By Ed's own admission through the review the club didn't properly support Bucks. Where does the buck stop? If Gary Pert is an answer then to what extent was the role of the CEO allowed to under- perform by the board (read Eddie) ?
Times up imo. |
If Ed was in the business sector say at an ASX listed company he would be gone by now.....the gaffs and the poor on field performance under his watch would have been his undoing.
You also have to question a man who openly questions his own position at the club...then backtracks on it because apparently his family members told him he should stay. If after 20 years your not sure about your ability/desire to continue you should have done the honorable thing and stood aside.
I guess at any rate now it does not matter. 2018 Bucks and Eddie's jobs are linked to one another.....I truly hope they have a plan to get the club back on a decent footing.... Or i look forward to Eddie trying to talk his way out of resigning if we are still in the bottom six this time next year.
_________________
"To know nothing of events before your birth, is to forever remain a child" - Cicero (Roman Lawyer/Senator) 46 BCE.
Last edited by derkd on Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:22 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
|
|
|
derkd
Joined: 29 May 2013
|
| Post subject: | |
|
double post
_________________
"To know nothing of events before your birth, is to forever remain a child" - Cicero (Roman Lawyer/Senator) 46 BCE. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
|
The Rules
FAQ
Usergroups
Calendar
Search
Log in
Register
