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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie wrote: | Pies4shaw wrote: | 52:A person of presently unannounced age and gender has died in Victoria. |
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Thanks I have updated my post. It's in the Guardian, so I'm happy that it's accurate.
Also, while I'm here:
53: A 69-year-old man has died in Newcastle at John Hunter Hospital in NSW. According to the NSW authorities, he likely contracted the virus “during a recent trip interstate”. The man had travelled to Queensland. |
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eddiesmith
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Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Location: Lexus Centre
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Tannin wrote: | WTF? Why, why would any person with half a brain and access to advanced modern technology such as calendars go shopping on Holy Thursday FFS?
(Excluding your "work thing", TP.)
We do our one and only weekly shop on Thursdays (for no particular reason, it just happens to be the day we go shopping) but we looked at the calendar and brought that forward to Tuesday morning, about half-past eight. It was a breeze. No crowds, no queues, no worries. |
That was the day the pensioners wanted their shopping done to give them fresh food for the long weekend. Normally I'd do it on a Friday.
For me I also needed some fresh food as stuff was expiring and I currently don't have a properly working freezer. Now I've got to convince my grandmother she needs a new fridge!!! |
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"Testing failures
The signature failure of the US response to the coronavirus was the slow rollout of mass testing. Because of technical glitches and bureaucratic bungling, the US was flying blind as the virus spread through the country in February and early March.
Instead of using a test developed by the World Health Organisation, the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) opted to develop its own test. This wasn't particularly unusual. It’s common for nations with strong scientific expertise to develop their own diagnostics.
The CDC was indeed able to quickly develop a viable coronavirus test, but struggled to ramp up production. When it started sending out test kits to public health laboratories in early February, problems emerged immediately. Trial runs produced inconclusive results in more than half the labs, meaning the tests couldn’t be relied upon.
The CDC implemented a workaround solution, which required the labs to send tests back to the organisation's headquarters in Atlanta. This resulted in days-long delays. By mid-February, the nation was testing only about 100 samples per day.
Top researchers at prestigious universities were also hindered in their efforts to roll out their own COVID-19 tests. On January 31 Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar declared the coronavirus a public health emergency. It was an important declaration but had unintended consequences.
Hospitals and private laboratories that usually face minimal federal regulation were now subject to new rules that required them to obtain permission from the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) before using their own tests.
It wasn't until late February that the FDA relaxed its rules and allowed certain laboratories to develop and use their own tests before authorisation.
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Asked about the testing shortage at a congressional hearing in March, Dr Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease expert, said: "It is a failing, let's admit it."
The pace of testing has increased dramatically over recent weeks. Around 100,000 people are now being tested each day. But the surge came too late to identify emerging hotspots such as New York."
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/this-is-how-america-s-coronavirus-response-went-wrong-20200409-p54ii6.html |
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Dark Beanie
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: A galaxy far, far away.
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https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/pete-evans-is-pushing-a-15000-device-to-help-fight-coronavirus/news-story/3aa451b8bc1f750a9056e5b1bd26365e
Pete Evans is pushing a $15,000 device to help fight coronavirus
Celebrity chef Pete Evans wants Australians to know that all they need to fight the deadly coronavirus is a $15,000 frequency machine that uses “harmonies … found in nature”.
The controversial television cooking show judge, who recently praised the work of notorious anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr, spruiked the futuristic-looking machine to his Facebook followers on Thursday night.
In a Facebook live video, Evans said the BioCharger NG, which he sells on his website, is a “pretty amazing tool” which he and his family “use pretty much every day”.
“It’ll take you down some rabbit holes … it’ll take me an hour or two to explain it,” he said.
“Just briefly, it’s programmed with about a thousand different recipes. There’s a couple on there for Wuhan coronavirus that you may be interested in.”
Seriously?
This guy should have been booted from Channel 7 years ago. _________________ If you are foolish enough to be contented, don't show it, but just grumble with the rest. - Jerome K Jerome |
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Pies4shaw
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54: An elderly man has died at Northwest Hospital in Tasmania. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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stui magpie
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In about a month, Sweden will either be vindicated or FUBAR'd.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/europe/sweden-lockdown-turmp-intl/index.html
Quote: | Much of Europe is still on coronavirus lockdown, with severe restrictions on movement and penalties for those who transgress.
But not Sweden. Restaurants and bars are open in the Nordic country, playgrounds and schools too, and the government is relying on voluntary action to stem the spread of Covid-19. |
They're really playing a different game, maybe because it suits their demographics better where they already have a lot of people living alone, working from home and a welfare system which means not working isn't a big issue.
They've pretty much locked down the elderly but for everyone else it's just business as usual in practice.
Potentially very risky strategy, see how it plays out. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
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I think the true figure for New York is over one million cases (rather than the official number of about 165,000), based on the number of deaths.
That consistent under-enumeration of cases is replicated across the US, largely as a consequence of Trump's delays and limits in rolling out testing. The "confirmed cases" figures in the US are a farce. Just by way of example, it is inconceivable that Kentucky could have 79 deaths from 1,450 cases.
Also, it is probable that New York and New Jersey were just ahead of the rest of the US on the "infection curve". In the last 24 hours, the following daily new cases counts have been recorded, amongst others:
Mass'tts 2,151
Penns'a 1,803
Texas 1,361
Illinois 1,344
Louisiana 1,253
Michigan 1,158
California 1,141
Florida 1,128
Conn'cut 1,003
Georgia 681
Maryland 656
Colorado 547
Indiana 408
Virginia 397
Ohio 364
Alabama 339
It is a public health disaster, countrywide. At the moment, 29 States have recorded more deaths than (and in 19 of those 29 cases, at least double) the whole of Australia. |
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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie wrote: | In about a month, Sweden will either be vindicated or FUBAR'd.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/europe/sweden-lockdown-turmp-intl/index.html
Quote: | Much of Europe is still on coronavirus lockdown, with severe restrictions on movement and penalties for those who transgress.
But not Sweden. Restaurants and bars are open in the Nordic country, playgrounds and schools too, and the government is relying on voluntary action to stem the spread of Covid-19. |
They're really playing a different game, maybe because it suits their demographics better where they already have a lot of people living alone, working from home and a welfare system which means not working isn't a big issue.
They've pretty much locked down the elderly but for everyone else it's just business as usual in practice.
Potentially very risky strategy, see how it plays out. |
It looks reasonably dreadful, at the moment: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
Have a look at the graphs on new cases and deaths (and select the logarithmic scale to show the trend). Sweden recorded its first death due to the virus on 10 March (Australia recorded its first on 1 March), its 10th death on 18 March, its 100th on March 27, its 500th on April 7 and as of April 9 had 793 deaths. It has recorded 76, 114, 96 and 106 deaths over the most recent 4 days. Sweden's population is about 40% of Australia's.
Also, I'm confident Sweden actually has around 120,000 cases already (otherwise, they couldn't have had so many deaths), so good luck to them trying to keep it under control with their current strategy. |
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Pies4shaw
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This reasonably bizarre (from the Guardian's blog, just breaking):
NSW Arts Minister Don Harwin has resigned from the government after he was fined $1000 by police for staying at his central coast holiday home, breaching a Covid-19 public health order. |
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Tannin
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Pies4shaw wrote: | This reasonably bizarre (from the Guardian's blog, just breaking):
NSW Arts Minister Don Harwin has resigned from the government after he was fined $1000 by police for staying at his central coast holiday home, breaching a Covid-19 public health order. |
It's even more bizarre than you think. The minister did not, repeat NOT break a public health order. He complied with the law in all respects, and if he wished, he could refuse to pay the fine and contest the charge in court. In fact, it wouldn't get to a day in court because the case would be summarily dismissed by any judge. The prosecution case does not have a let to stand on.
The minister fully complied with the NSW travel ban, and with the stay-at-home ban. He went to his Central Coast home days BEFORE the travel ban came in (perfectly legal to do that) and stayed there. (Perfectly legal to stay at home. Indeed, the law required him to do so.) The only time he violated the travel ban was when ordered to do so by the Premier - i.e., after she said "Get your arse back to Sydney you fool!"
Is the Minister a tool? Too right he is.
Did it look bad for Gladys? My oath it did.
Was it illegal? Not in the slightest.
Did it imperil public health? Not in the least.
PS: Compare with the NSW Emergency Services Minister who went on holiday to London during the peak of the fire emergency, or the Prime Minister who sneaked away to Hawaii at that same time. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Tannin
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Pies4shaw wrote: | 54: An elderly man has died at Northwest Hospital in Tasmania. |
North West Hospital is starting to look like a massive great stuff-up, the worst one in this country since the Ruby Princess. According to the announcement today, they are going to test other hospital staff tomorrow.
WTF?
The NWH outbreak has been known for more than a week. And they haven't even tested the other staff yet? Unbelievable!
I hope very much that this is simply some kind of horrible communication stuff up and that the outbreak had in fact been treated seriously by Tasmanian officials, and that they took prompt action at the proper time. (I.e., last week.)
This is the ONLY serious outbreak in the entire state. Surely they weren't sitting on their hands the way today's announcement says they were. Tasmania has handled Covid-19 very well indeed so far, but if today's report is true, we are looking at very, very bad consequences from this almighty stuffup.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-10/coronavirus-death-fourth-in-tasmania/12141276 _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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stui magpie
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Pies4shaw wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | In about a month, Sweden will either be vindicated or FUBAR'd.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/10/europe/sweden-lockdown-turmp-intl/index.html
Quote: | Much of Europe is still on coronavirus lockdown, with severe restrictions on movement and penalties for those who transgress.
But not Sweden. Restaurants and bars are open in the Nordic country, playgrounds and schools too, and the government is relying on voluntary action to stem the spread of Covid-19. |
They're really playing a different game, maybe because it suits their demographics better where they already have a lot of people living alone, working from home and a welfare system which means not working isn't a big issue.
They've pretty much locked down the elderly but for everyone else it's just business as usual in practice.
Potentially very risky strategy, see how it plays out. |
It looks reasonably dreadful, at the moment: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
Have a look at the graphs on new cases and deaths (and select the logarithmic scale to show the trend). Sweden recorded its first death due to the virus on 10 March (Australia recorded its first on 1 March), its 10th death on 18 March, its 100th on March 27, its 500th on April 7 and as of April 9 had 793 deaths. It has recorded 76, 114, 96 and 106 deaths over the most recent 4 days. Sweden's population is about 40% of Australia's.
Also, I'm confident Sweden actually has around 120,000 cases already (otherwise, they couldn't have had so many deaths), so good luck to them trying to keep it under control with their current strategy. |
Looking at that worldometers data, compared to Australia Sweden has done bugger all testing and currently has something like a 79% fatality rate which supports your hypothesis that they have a metric fuckload more infections than they think they have and a lot of people who'be been infected and recovered without getting medical attention _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
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Some more on counting in the UK, for K:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/covid-19-hundreds-of-uk-care-home-deaths-not-added-to-official-toll
Hundreds of people are dying in care homes from confirmed or suspected coronavirus without yet being officially counted, the Guardian has learned.
More than 120 residents of the UK’s largest charitable provider of care homes are thought to have died from the virus in the last three weeks, while another network of care homes is reported to have recorded 88 deaths.
Care England, the industry body, estimated that the death toll is likely to be close to 1,000, despite the only available official figure for care home fatalities being dramatically lower. The Office for National Statistics said this week that 20 people died in care homes across the whole of England and Wales in the week to 27 March.
The gulf in the figures has prompted warnings that ministers are underestimating the impact of Covid-19 on society’s most frail, and are failing to sufficiently help besieged care homes and workers. |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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