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What'sinaname Libra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:44 pm
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Obviously it was not intended to be racist but yes I concede not the current
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No offence meant


I was just joking...........just to be able to say Daics is just The Marvel...not just a Macedonian Marvel.

Sorry mate.....I was hoping the second line would show I was saying it tongue in cheek.

By the way, LOVE Daics, both v1.0 and v2.0. Can't wait for version 2.1
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JC Hartley Cancer

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:29 pm
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Collingwood have snapped a two-game losing streak in unconvincing fashion to win against Sydney by 9 points. The Magpies trailed by as much as 14 points approaching Half Time, before Jamie Elliott's goal after the siren reduced the deficit to 8 points at the main break. For the majority of the first half, the Woods dominated field position without scoring a single goal in the opening term, with all six of their scoring shots (0.6.6) resulting in behinds. The second term had a marginally better return (2.4.16), yet the Swans won that quarter convincingly with conversion on the scoreboard. After half time, Collingwood were able to kick 3 goals (3.1.19) and kept Sydney goalless (0.2.2) for the quarter to not only regain the lead by 9 points, they were able to wrestle back control and momentum heading into the final term. The last quarter was dour with very simple goals missed by both sides, before the Woods fought out the final stages of the last quarter with just one rotation on the interchange bench. A miraculous goal at the death ultimately gave the Magpies a very welcome victory to keep their heads above water.

Collingwood won the bulk of the statistical categories on offer with disposals won by +91 (332 - 241), kicks by +28 (182 - 154), +63 for handballs (150 - 87), contested possessions were won by +26 (134 - 108), and uncontested possessions had an advantage of +67 (190 - 123). Hit-outs had a differential of +9 (33 - 24), clearances were +10 (34 - 24), with stoppage clearances won by +13 (28 - 15), intercept possessions were won by +11 (70 - 59), +6 for marks (70 - 64), with a margin of +17 for uncontested marks (68 - 51), and Inside 50s were won commandingly by +17 (50 - 33), which was not a true reflection of Collingwood's dominance on the scoreboard. Sydney's gains came from centre clearances by +3 (9 - 6), +12 for tackles (75 - 63), Tackles Inside 50 was +1 (10 - 9), Contested Marks were +11 (13 - 2), and Marks Inside 50 had a differential of +1 (6 - 5).

Taylor Adams (29 disposals @ 45%, 456 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 12 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 Inside 50s, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) stood up to the plate when the heat was on throughout the entire game. Ball use was an issue, yet his ferocity inside the contest gave his team enough opportunities to score.

Adam Treloar (25 disposals @ 60%, 276 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 14 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 4 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50's) accumulated disposals once again inside three quarters without doing much damage against the Swans, before injuring his hamstring. See you soon, Adam.

Josh Daicos (25 disposals @ 68%, 501 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 19 kicks, 6 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 7 Inside 50s & 1 goal) had his finest game of his career, with his most important goal for the club eventuating with almost three minutes left. His ability to execute that banana from the pocket to give the Magpies breathing space could be a season-defining moment for the club going forward.

Brayden Sier (23 disposals @ 70%, 232 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 15 handballs, 3 tackles, 7 score involvements, 8 clearances, 7 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) played his best game of the season, with his bullocking work from stoppages complimented Adams nicely.

Tom Phillips (20 disposals @ 60%, 350 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 2 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) found a bit of touch on the wing without very much scoreboard impact.

Brodie Grundy (16 disposals @ 62%, 12 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 32 hit-outs, 4 kicks, 12 handballs, 7 tackles, 3 score involvements, 6 clearances, 5 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) lifted vastly in the second half to give his midfield plenty of looks at stoppages.

Brayden Maynard (19 disposals @ 58%, 305 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) imposed himself on the contest when he won the ball to give his side territory. Solid game, without being overly dominant.

Jordan Roughead (18 disposals @ 61%, 113 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 9 handballs & 6 marks) accumulated disposals without very much risk. Chose the safe and easy option for most of the match.

Jack Madgen (16 disposals @ 88%, 184 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 7 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles & 4 Rebound 50's) played his best game for the club. Decided to be aggressive and took a few risks coming out of defence.

Jack Crisp (15 disposals @ 53%, 325 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had a reasonable night on transitioning the footy from defence. Tackling pressure was good, and worked off his opponent a handful of times to be involved in scoring chains.

John Noble (14 disposals @ 57%, 264 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had a lively first half, before scoring his first goal for the club at a crucial juncture in the match.

Steele Sidebottom (18 disposals @ 56%, 105 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 9 handballs, 3 marks, 8 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances & 3 stoppage clearances) had a modest game, but still applied plenty of tackles, and displayed his class when it was required.

Brody Mihocek (15 disposals @ 73%, 254 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 5 handballs, 9 marks, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 3 score involvements & 4 Inside 50s) worked very high on the wings to take his marks. Gave his side an option at every available opportunity.

Callum Brown (14 disposals @ 86%, 5 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 3 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles & 2 Inside 50's) showed his agility to weave through packs and dished off a lot of handpasses. I'd like him to create more scoring forays, and be able to take shots within close range of goal. Brown's not a very long kick, so if he can be dangerous within 25 metres to score goals, that would be great.

Jaidyn Stephenson (10 disposals @ 80%, 183 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) was unsighted in the first half, before an improved second half allowed him to impact the scoreboard without kicking any goals.

Jamie Elliott (10 disposals @ 60%, 225 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 6 tackles, 4 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) had a couple of stints in the midfield without much impact, before going forward and scored a crucial goal on the half time siren to give the troops momentum.

Collingwood's next game will be against Adelaide on August 11 at the Adelaide Oval. The Magpies are not playing premiership footy right now, yet they will look to press their claims with a much better performance to claim victory over the Crows. At least three spots in the team are up for grabs with Hoskin-Elliott, Treloar & Quaynor ruled out of this game. Conversion of goals from forward entries will be the main focus heading into the game on Tuesday.

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Alex 



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:47 pm
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Great analysis again JC, always look forward to this after the game
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:51 pm
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Thanks JC. I love in particular your analysis of Tay. So easy to condemn for a wayward kick that is superficially obvious. but all the ferocity at the contest can go underestimated when assessing his overall contribution.
Also really appreciated your assessment of Magden and Sier.
Just wondered how you assessed Josh Thomas' game?
Yes, that goal from Josh Daicos sent shivers down our collective spine. There was something about it, and his subsequent celebration, so reminiscent of his father, that suggested a moment of special importance.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:14 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
BazBoy wrote:
And for all who saw The Macedonian Marvel we may yet see more of the family brilliance
For all you too young to remember you may well see brilliance that you just won’t believe


You can't say that anymore. It's racist.

Daicos is now just.........The Marvel....which is more apt as more race was better than he.


I hope you’re joking at it being racist.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:15 am
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The main thing is, we won.

If the opponent said "West Coast Eagles" instead of "Sydney Swans" we'd be fkn celebrating hard, saying it was one of the best wins ever. Because the Swans are botttom 4, its expected that we dish out an absolute hiding. But we are not the same team we were a few weeks ago and certainly not the 2018 version.

Yes, a better team would have made us pay for so many misses in front of goal. Yes, we were is desperate need of a tall forward to pair with Mihocek. But looking at a positive, we fkn smashed them everywhere else. But the scoreboard is what matters, and we were lucky.

The Swans kicked straight and we sprayed them everywhere including two on the full and one that didnt make the distance.

I do believe it was still a good win with the loss of WHE in the opening minutes, and Treloar and IQ later in the game. (Thought we lost Maynard for a sec there too). And that end goal by Daicos made it all worth it. Perhaps that kick was the get out of jail free card? Dont think we'll get another, so we need to do much better in F50.

You add a half decent tall in the forward line and we win this game by more than 9 points.

I understand why many are upset with the game, but sheesh, who needs Viagra when you have that Daicos goal?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:18 am
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Alex wrote:
Great analysis again JC, always look forward to this after the game


Agree with the others, top post by JC.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:43 am
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:
Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:
5 from the wing on debut wrote:
On the March wrote:
Don't want to get too excited but THAT goal reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCertzm8t0 Very Happy


I thought the same thing.
I just can't believe that was 30 years ago, it seems like yesterday.
The ball landed almost at our feet.
The most magic day in my football life.


That was a drop punt though wasn't it? Even harder I would have said


Yes, Peter's goal was a drop punt, from right on the boundary. It was also our 1st goal in that GF after the Bombers had been continually attacking. I have never felt such electricity at a game as then. It may sound silly to say it, but after all of the disappointments we had had in GF's in previous years, when he kicked that goal, I just knew that it was our day. Peter wasn't a novice though, he started in 1980 and 1990 was his 3rd GF. Let's see how his boy does with another 10 year's experience.


THIRTY years ago hey, bloody hell, i was a young bloke then, time flies hey, seems like so recent, time goes by, every so often, i watch the game and marvel at a truly great side. Smile Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:04 am
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Yes PNC, we share that thought.
Within a week of that game I had watched the replay 5 times.
I still have the large framed team photo on my office wall. Or, I assume that I do. I haven’t been there since March!
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I just watched 3rd and 4th quarter,s and we were very much the hunter and
to win that game
A hard fought win but with some valuable outcomes—-a good first up by Ruscoe who appears to be very composed and has good disposal

And Sier —well is it Sier / is it Wills. For me it’s Sier

He has the edge in pace over Wills and I feel makes better decisions

Am looking forward to what lies in front of us

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:30 pm
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BazBoy wrote:
Obviously it was not intended to be racist but yes I concede not the current
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No offence meant

There's nothing offensive about it.

Daicos' family are from the same region of Greece as my family.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:48 pm
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After watching today’s game between Port & Tigers, I’m fairly convinced that if we make the 8, we’ll be just making up the numbers🙄
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Heavy stacked against Vic side,s this season

The Ports and Lions and Eagles sit mostly home waiting for Vic clubs to travel in

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Heavy stacked against Vic side,s this season

The Ports and Lions and Eagles sit mostly home waiting for Vic clubs to travel in


Yep. I tend to agree with Piesnchess that the flag this year will be won by an interstate team.

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Daicos' family are from the same region of Greece as my family.

So, Jezza, what is your excuse then for not being Collingwood's missing CHF or FF?

You should be entering your prime years now.
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