Interesting analysis of our stoppage problems

[Pies4shaw]

From the ABC:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-06/afl-stoppage-an-art-shaping-collingwood-magpies-results/12525480

This only scratches the surface but it contains some interesting data analysis and illustrative video snips.

[Haff]

Explained by no Pendles? Elliot seems to get a bit of the ball in there but you couldn’t call him a mid. He actually fumbles quite a bit and I’m not convinced on his defensive running. Throw in Crisp who is 100% not a mid then I think it easily explains this.

Oh and the turn over merchant Treloar!

[ronrat]

Adams gave them a lesson in turnovers last week. I was actually hoping he wouldn;t get the ball.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

[Sicks Bux]

Grundy should just smash it forward twenty metres at the centre bounces like Clarke Keating used to. It sets the tone from the get-go.

[Pies2016]

Thanks !
It’s a brilliant analysis for the purist ( and that’s basically anyone who doesn’t feel the need to pot debutants or kids )
I have felt for a while that are some teams with rubbish rucks are now prepared to spend more time positioning themselves in Grundys tapping zone rather than focussing entirely on the hit out. ( “ shadowing “ in the ruck )

As the analysis suggested, so much of the game day strategy centres around risk versus reward strategies. I also feel Collingwood has become more risk adverse this year because there is obviously no trust in either Cox or Cameron up forward.
It’s a lot easier to want to move the ball quickly when you have trust in your big blokes up forward ( ie Ports improvement )

There are also plenty strategists who will tell you that the most important disposal in footy is the second disposal from the clearance. This is where we have truly missed Pendles and Sidey. The last thing you want is any of Adams, Sier or Wills pinpointing the ball onto the chest of an undersized forward line.

Thanks again. I recommend everyone read it.

[Abdul The Bull]

We are getting smashed at centre clearances. I believe that this occurs because we do not have a defensive mid that can annul opposition mids. Wills has been the most adept at this (but not this season, unfortunately) and until we develop some big-bodied mids that can play a shut down role, as well as win their own ball, we will continue to be bullied in this area.

In my opinion, this is symptomatic of a larger problem at the Pies in that we are far too soft around the ball and are too easily displaced at contests. Hawthorn were masters of 'unsociable' footy. Richmond are now the leaders in physicality around the ball. Until we can withstand any kind of physical pressure and, more importantly, impart our own brand of 'tough' footy we will always languish in this area.

In a nutshell, we are too damn soft.

[Sicks Bux]

^ I remember that game at Docklands last year when North came out and physically pummelled us. The boys should watch that game again just to get a reminder of what tough uncompromising football is supposed to look like. We need to come out and play like that ASAP to get rolling again.

[Magpietothemax]

[3rd degree]

[ThePieMind]

[Sicks Bux]

[Abdul The Bull]

[What'sinaname]

^ No doubt the best teams have a brand and they stick to that brand, so everyone who comes in to the team knows exactly what they are signing up to do.

Hawks post 2011
Geelong all through this decade
Richmond over the past 3 years

All three are characterised by coaches who you know will test every rule to get an advantage and once they find that, they exploit it brilliantly. All three coaches were also arseholes as players.

[Mr Miyagi]

Bucks is a samurai, honour and play by the rules. But in war you have to fight dirty. Premiership teams always have a bit of dirty mongrel in them, we need to find that. Nice guys finish last, and I’m speaking from experience. I admire Bucks, but dig deep for that mongrel.