Jordan De Goey or Jeremey Cameron?

[Clifton Hill-Billy]

Old el paso kid "why not both"?

[Wonka]

[Pies4shaw]

[5 from the wing on debut]

The first 3 sentences refer to what Grundy used to be and seem to place importance on touching the ball first and doing nothing with it.

The last 3 sentences apply equally to Grundy.

The difference is that JDG can be and has been a matchwinner. Grundy was good in the first match of the season but has not been a matchwinner. JDG and the rest of the players know that.

[Pies4shaw]

We’re talking about de Goey. You may just enjoy trashing Grundy too much - but my point is that Grundy got his contract on the basis of two seasons in a row as a towering figure in the game. De Goey, whatever his attributes, is barely a footnote. He’s been in the system 6 seasons, now and has done extremely little to justify keeping him, let alone giving him a big contract. He’s just kicked 14 goals in a season, 11 of those in 3 games.

[sherrife]

[mattdally]

Clearly Jeremy Cameron is a much better player than DeGoey as a forward.
Cameron as a midfield not so.

Depends on where we value DeGoey's position on the field more.
If up forward - then we should look to maximise his trade value.
If midfield, then we focus on his ability in the guts to assist Taylor and Treloar.

[BenBronx]

FULL CREDIT FOR THE FOLLOWING GOES TO 7NEWS
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clubs-pursuit-of-jeremy-cameron-hinging-on-de-goeys-big-move-c-1379568

The Magpies could soon be entering the race for Jeremy Cameron’s signature – if Jordan De Goey ends up leaving the club to join Carlton.

The Herald Sun reports that De Goey’s potential departure would result in Collingwood having $800,000 to spare – money they could be tempted to throw at Cameron to lure him to Victoria.

Without the 24-year-old star leaving the Magies in the upcoming trade period, there would be no chance of the club affording Cameron, who’s also being pursued by the Cats.

7NEWS understands the Giants recently offered the 27-year-old a five-year contract worth around $700,000 per season.

It was an underwhelming offer for the 2019 Coleman medallist, who was set to earn around $1.5m on a heavily back-ended deal in 2020, before COVID cuts chopped his salary down to just over $1m.

7NEWS’ Tom Browne broke the news last week that the Cats are leading the race for Cameron’s signature, revealing there had been “a renewed link between Jeremy Cameron and the Cats in recent days”.

It’s understood Geelong could offer Cameron more than the Giants offer of $750,000 per season.

AFL Media journalist Damian Barrett reported the Cats could offer up to $850,000 per year thanks to the departure of Tim Kelly.

“The numbers for him to go to Geelong are probably about $750,000-850,000 (a year)” Barrett told Triple M.

“And believe it or not, that was a number and budgeting exercise that the Cats did this time last year when they were really desperate to keep Tim Kelly.

“Now it may not have been that high, but the money that they were able to convince themselves that they could pay Kelly ultimately didn’t have to be paid.

“It’s still effectively there going into 2021 and beyond.”

Meanwhile, Jordan De Goey has interest in playing for Carlton but it remains unclear whether that desire is reciprocated by the Blues.

He is arguably Collingwood’s greatest off-season concern after they were eliminated from the AFL finals by Geelong on Saturday night.

Out of contract ahead of the AFL trade period, De Goey is also due to face court later this month after he was charged with indecent assault over a 2015 incident.

He has been allowed to continue to train and play by the AFL while the matter progresses but the uncertainty further complicates his situation.

After splitting with his agent earlier this year De Goey manages his own affairs with his father Roger.

7NEWS Melbourne’s Tom Browne reports De Goey has in recent months expressed interest in playing for Carlton, who have banked a significant amount of space in their salary cap space in recent years.

The Blues spent some of their stockpiled funds on Jack Martin after recruiting him from the Gold Coast Suns last year, while they are due to secure Zac Williams (GWS Giants) and Adam Saad (Essendon) this off-season.

It is understood De Goey could be demanding a $1 million per-season deal if he is to depart the Magpies.

But while Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley indicated financial motivations are driving De Goey’s negotiation tactics, it’s understood the No.2 still wants to play in the midfield and establish himself as a superstar in the mould of Richmond’s Dustin Martin.

Buckley has previously described De Goey as a “frustrated midfielder”, saying in July they saw him slotting into the mix in the “medium term”.

Speaking after the Pies’ season ended with the heavy loss to Geelong, Buckley only referenced money as the primary concern in talks between club and player.

“Jordy loves the club, and he wants to be here,” Buckley said on Saturday night.

“Elements of people on his side would like to see him remunerated as well as he possibly could and we want him to be rewarded appropriately as well.

“That’s what it comes down to, because it’s not for a lack of belief in what the place has done for him and what it brings for him and the opportunity that it provides and the love and care and connection that he has to, not only the club, but in particular his teammates.

“But yes, there still needs to be a monetary outcome that’s satisfactory for both parties.”

De Goey kicked 14 goals in 10 games this year, taking his career tallies to 132 goals in 98 appearances.

[slangman]

This story has me more upbeat than any other since the disaster of Saturday night.
Throughout this year i have been debating the risks/value of keeping JDG taking into account both his form and the upcoming trial.
If the article is close to the money this would be a massive positive for us if we were able to snare Cameron along with a couple of high draft picks or players for JDG.
If we play this well we could benefit from this trade similar to the Beams to Brisbane trade.
I’m all for it and apart from Pendles, Howe, Adams, Moore & Crisp, ALL other players should be up for grabs.

We need to be bold!!!

[Mr Miyagi]

There’s nothing on Big Footy so it can’t be true

[mattdally]

Agree Slangman.

He is tradable. We won the Beams deal (first time round) - there is no guarantee that Jordy will improve much more - he may have already hit his peak. Two kids selected high in the draft gives us scope to fill future needs with Pendles and Howe in the twilight years of their careers.

Either way - J Cameron will kick more goals than Jordy next year - we lost games this year due to our inability to score.

[RudeBoy]

I love JDG, but if he is prepared to go to the scum for more dosh, then let him go and use the draft picks on players who want to play for us.

[Presti35]

Lets ask the Doggies; how do you feel after letting Stringer go to Essendon?

[Boogie Knights]

If we're absolutely wanting to keep JDG (and it appears as though we are), we should get him to have a chat to Daisy, who was the last of ours to leave for the Scum on big money... maybe ask him how that panned out...

[Mr Miyagi]

What is it with us and players using their dads as managers to squeeze more money? I’m not comparing Roger to the fabulous David Cloke, but it’s déjà vu