A change is as good as a holiday

[Harrysz]

2018 - 2nd
2019 - 3rd
2020 - 6th
2021 - ?

This is an alarming trend. It won't be reversed unless change(s) occurs. I'm sure we all remember what the club went through with Travis Cloke in 2012. He held out for more money and a longer deal. He eventually got his way. He had enormous currency at that time. He was the best forward pack mark in the game. Even though he was a restricted free agent, we could've done a great deal and probably secured a couple of high draft picks. History shows that Cloke, whilst still a good player declined after that. Of course, trading Cloke would've been unpopular. I wish we'd done it.

My point is, tinkering around the edges won't send us back into contention. We need to trade one of our top players. We need to attack the draft aggressively. We need a new set of assistant coaches. We need to get games into our younger players. Most of all our club needs to remember the old adage that if you keep repeating a process which doesn't work and you expect success, you're delusional.

Meaningful change needs to occur. Otherwise we'll continue watching other teams fight for premierships whilst we make excuses and look towards the next year!

[Lazza]

Fair comment but please note that there IS a difference between reasons and excuses. They have very different connotations. Most times reasons cannot be controlled when they happen but excuses are made up after things happen.

[Millane42]

2019 - 4th

[Presti35]

WCE:

2015 - 2nd
2016 - 6th
2017 - 8th
2018.....

We can turn it around if we make the right off season moves.

[What'sinaname]

[Lazza]

Unfortunately not that easy. The club needs to stay strong and display the same loyalty they ask of the players. If the reporting is correct it the club is being extremely disloyal to Treloar. They are being bastards 🤬😡

[masoncox]

[What'sinaname]

[Lazza]

Transparency is good. I guess I haven’t got a well hidden agenda here in that Treloar has been one of my favourite players since he arrived at the club. I need to accept that this new age process of owning the players enough to handle them like puppet masters is standard practice now, although I don’t have to like it. I find it extremely fortunate that Pendles didn’t suffer the same fate. I’ll miss Treloar and in time I’ll respect the club again once I resolve my disgust and anger at the puppet masters who are a bunch of bloody muppets 🤬😡😖

[inxs88]

We got Adam Treloar with two first round draft picks and hoped he would represent a replacement for an ageing Dane Swan insofar as a tear away from stoppage, fast attacking impactful mid-fielder. A real 9.5/10 multi best and fairest, potential Brownlow Medalist and finals game-breaker. That's what two first round draft picks represent. Unfortunately he has been a very good player 8/10 but one that hasn't matched let alone exceeded expectations.

Don't discount Stewart Dew "advertising Pick 5 and strong interest" in Adam on AFL360 last Monday night and the Pies sudden shift on whether to retain Adam going forward. Uncanny timing and coincidence? Seems logical. I'd rather we be bold vs vanilla and undoubtedly brave decisions with an ounce of measuredness can make a massive difference (eg Wingard trade).

Positives:

* High draft pick
* solid steak knife player
* $700,000+ salary out of long-term cap
* shot across the bow to a complacent paying list

Negatives:

* potential player backlash
* possible culture setback

[Lazza]

Potential supporter backlash in a season where attendance at home games is going to be crucial. Your choice and call Collingwood, who are not very used to taking many risks.

[Piesnchess]

The Cats have shown you can have the oldest team in the League, but still do some meaningful hard shit, as they make the GF. Maybe we can learn something from them, they sure have turned it all upside down now.

[What'sinaname]

[Harrysz]

I'm a huge fan of Adam Treloar and I wasn't necessarily suggesting that we trade him. My point is that if we just plod along and do what we've done for the last few years, C grade trades, same coaching staff and so on, then there's no reason why our current slide won't continue.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]