Why can't we develop a Dynasty?

[SteveH67]

Potentially Geelong, the Tigers, Hawks, and back Lions.

We can win one every 20 years these days.

Tigers will be only two flags behind us if they win tonight.

Cats are closing the gap too, if they win.

Hawks have 13. All of them since we won our 13th in 1958.

I'm not superstitious or anything, but someone I do wonder.

[jatsad]

[think positive]

nah i think youve got it in a nutshell

[Achilles]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but don’t we average a grand final every four years? That’s an incredible achievement. I know we don’t win them all but we’re a club that’s so focused on success we do actually get there in the end.

Hawthorn we’re lucky a few years back because they peaked and stayed there when GWS took the cream of the crop and other clubs weren’t able to tip up their talent.

Richmond have a template for success. Pick players that give you a style of play that others don’t. You need to look at the opposition and come up with a team that’s better than everyone else. Smart recruiting.

Giving up 2 first rounders for Beams was a monumental F up. I hope we’ve learnt that lesson.

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Perfectly put there jatsad 8 points in a nutshell and all correct this is the best post in this collingwood farce its become

[Presti35]

We've been in 6 Grand Finals since the start of 1990 for a result of 2-4. We've made 10 Prelim Finals in that time. (Doing from the top of my head, forgive me if I made a mistake).

10 cracks at a flag in 30 years. A bit of luck may have seen us win a couple more, but we've got 2 wins in the AFL era.

I can't imagine what it'd be like to win 3 or more flags in the space of 6 or 7 seasons.

[magpieazza]

Some good points but 2018 was desperately close and would have been classed as a successful year if not for an umpiring blunder and an extraordinary goal.

One from the past....1992 we finished equal top points but third on %, so we played St Kilda in an elimination under the final 6 system, and lost by 8 points. therefore got knocked out first week. We were flying the whole year but under that particular system we didnt get 2 bites of the cherry where it would have likely been a rebound victory the next week.

Just saying we are usually there abouts but not always lucky. You always need some luck but we get the rough end of the pineapple more than usual.

[masoncox]

[SteveH67]

[What'sinaname]

Because we consistently overachieve in the H&A season and in finals and make Grand Finals we have no right to have been in.

Hence why we have the bets record of all teams in the H&A, and in all finals except the GF.

[stoliboy]

We rarely have the dominant team in the competition. That is not great for winning the final game of the season if there is at least one team better than you out there.

Looking at our ladder position the last time we finished top of the ladder was 2010 + 2011... we won the flag in 2010 but in 2011 (despite that being statically one of our best teams ever) we couldn't get it done.

The time before that was 1977.

We have had so many good teams, and being in all those Prelims means we get close a lot, but we also then get average draft picks after.

Year by Year Ladder Positions
https://afltables.com/afl/seas/ladders/laddersyby.html

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

We always seam to be between a rock and a hard place, its close but not quite. Plus throw in a dispicable 2013-2020 barring 2018. Unless theres changes we will continue as just a medi oaker, so so and wish washy team.

[Johnno75]

Jatsad has got it right on his points. I’d like to add that we don’t look ruthless enough. Apart from the Cats of 07-11 they had extra ordinary team and skill, the others in Lions, Hawks and Richmond they all played on the edge and stretched the rules as far as they could, they were arrogant and at times played outside the spirit of the game. I’d rather we were disliked for what we did on field if that leads to Premierships.

[What'sinaname]

[Magpietothemax]