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doriswilgus
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Tannin wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | Most of them were more interested in waving flags and taking selfies. As far as riots go it was very underwhelming. |
Correct. Only seven deaths. What a poor effort. |
And 60 policemen were injured,some were nearly blinded by the bear spray the rioters used.Yeah,so not much of a riot.Look away,nothing to see here. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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watt price tully
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Remarkable: I suppose they had to say something, after all they were defending the indefensible. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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What'sinaname
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As expected, impeachment trial a waste of time. _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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Sicks Bux
Hal 2003-2019
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Apparently they could've stopped Trump from ever holding public office again, with just 51 Senate votes, by invoking the 14th amendment. I wonder if that's still an option?
https://youtu.be/kvK3nM-IDq8 _________________ The beatings will continue until moral improves. |
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watt price tully
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What'sinaname wrote: | As expected, impeachment trial a waste of time. |
A shallow understanding of the process would lead one to that opinion. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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watt price tully
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Now for the various extra parliamentary legal actions to occur including criminal proceedings. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Pies4shaw
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^ ... as the Republican Party tries to scrape the thing it stood in just outside the front door from the sole of its shoe. |
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Tannin
Can't remember
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The debarment with a simple majority thing only applies after a guilty verdict, as I understand it.
We have got this whole thing wrong. Two ways.
First, it is utterly stupid trying a politician in front of other politicians. When a politician breaks the law, he should be tried by a proper judge in a proper court.
Secondly, we no longer apply the traditional penalty for treason: traitors like Trump were hung, drawn, and quartered.
OK, if it was up to me I'd wind that penalty back a little 'coz I'm a softie, just a simple hanging would do. Trump's repeated and deliberate acts of serious and harmful disloyalty deserve no less. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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David
I dare you to try
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The problem is and always has been the presidency. It offers an individual far too much power and almost no capacity for accountability. It was only a matter of time before someone like Trump showed up to expose the weaknesses of the system (though arguably Nixon beforehand had already done so).
The outcome here didn’t show that this impeachment trial was a waste of time. It showed that all impeachment trials are a waste of time. The US is in desperate need of a constitutional overhaul, nothing more and nothing less. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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doriswilgus
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Location: the great southern land
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David wrote: | The problem is and always has been the presidency. It offers an individual far too much power and almost no capacity for accountability. It was only a matter of time before someone like Trump showed up to expose the weaknesses of the system (though arguably Nixon beforehand had already done so).
The outcome here didn’t show that this impeachment trial was a waste of time. It showed that all impeachment trials are a waste of time. The US is in desperate need of a constitutional overhaul, nothing more and nothing less. |
I agree with that,David..The U.S constitution is hopelessly outdated and doesn’t reflect modern values.It was written by wealthy white men,some slavers,more than 240 years ago.The world has changed immeasurably since then.When was the last time the constitution was even amended?It must be a long time ago now.
As for Trump’s acquittal.It’s no big surprise.The republicans were always going to whimpi out because they’re frightened of Trump and his rabid base.I think a lot of these senators were frightened for their own personal safety and for the safety of their families.Anyone who dares to oppose Trump is at risk of being physically attacked and threatened as we saw with the capitol riots.These people are fanatical,dangerous and violent.It seems that the Republicans are scared of their own supporters,and for good reason.
Anyway,let’s see how Trump goes in a real court of law,without the jelly backed republicans to cover for him.I think that the result will be very different in a criminal case,rather than a political case. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Yes the US Constitution could use reworking, not going to happen.
Yes Trumps Impeachments were a total waste of time , both of them
Expecting different results in different jurisdictions with higher standards of proof is setting yourself up for a fall. Just be thankful he's not POTUS anymore and move on _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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