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GeorgeQ 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:54 am
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Great article by Jake, thanks for posting Dr Pie.
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K 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:59 am
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RudeBoy wrote:
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People seem to forget that Leon had begun to lose the confidence of MM. He was, after all, dropped for our 2nd GF team.

Err... no. I mean, yeah, he was dropped for GF2... But that was 2010. 2011 as a defender was different.
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BazBoy 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:06 am
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Read some where the club has formed a group to action the reports recommendation,s

Daniel Wells —-Jodie Sizer and another indigenous girl ( can’t find the article for her name)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:08 am
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Collingwood appoint experts to implement changes from Do Better report

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-appoint-experts-to-implement-changes-from-do-better-report-20210217-p573g1.html

"... Daniel Wells will sit on a 12-person expert group on anti-racism Collingwood have established to assist the club to implement the 18 recommendations contained in the Do Better report...

Joining Wells in the group will be Magpies board member Jodie Sizer, the AFL’s inclusion and social policy manager Tanya Hosch, as well as nine experts from outside the industry who have been appointed to the role for 18 months.
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The club have also appointed Taryn Lee, a Yawuru woman, as strategic adviser to assist the club with the recommendations. Lee will report to Magpies CEO Mark Anderson."


Eddie Cubillo
Tasneem Chopra
Melinda Cilento
Janine Coombs
Tanya Hosch
Rana Hussain
Andrew Jackomos
Tony Lovett
Professor Yin Paradies
Jodie Sizer
Dr Helen Szoke (OA)
Daniel Wells

Taryn Lee
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5 from the wing on debut 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:40 am
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That hardly seems sufficient.
We need at least one personal adviser for each player on the list and each of the admin staff.
Will those that were already there when we were systematically racist be advising themselves or someone else?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:44 am
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"... there’s an emotional immaturity about a country so reliant on sport to confront racial questions, that pays greater attention to a footy club’s review than government’s Closing The Gap report."

Kapow!
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K 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:49 am
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billy_picken25 wrote:
Quote from the Age "Joanna Lin has revealed Collingwood suspended a fan’s membership after the teen was subjected to a racial slur on social media the night she was drafted."

Did someone say racism is not a problem ?

Or should racist people learn to be un-racist?

It'd be nice if players could go at least half a day at a club before being racially abused by their own members...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:56 am
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^ Yes indeed K!!!!

A very astute and courageous article, that puts the whole nation's response to racism squarely out front. Brilliant!!!
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K 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:01 pm
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Sicks Bux wrote:
K wrote:
Sicks Bux wrote:
Does opposing racism automatically make someone a member of the "woke brigade" Or can you oppose racism up to a certain point without receiving the label?

"Woke" has been turned into a 'vapid' term of abuse by the 'anti-woke':

https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/pc-gone-mad-guy-is-driving-me-bonkers-20210202-p56yst.html


Interesting article. Yeah, the term woke is being used as indiscrimalty as American conservatives use the word communist.
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How the word ‘woke’ was hijacked to silence people of colour

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/27/word-woke-became-tool-silence-people-colour-12426214/

"It has even been picked up by advertisers, with Burger King using the word in commercials for their new vegan burgers – inferring that being ‘woke’ is something frivolous, an ideology to be laughed at.
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But twisting the meaning of this word in this way is specifically damaging to people of colour because, although it is now used in relation to any seemingly liberal position, the origins of ‘woke’ are so inextricably tied up in recognising and fighting racism.

If being ‘woke’ is a bad thing, the subtext is that speaking out about racial inequalities is a bad thing. The use of this word is a convenient veil.
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‘The intention of this word was for it to have a positive outcome for a minority group,’ he [linguistics professor Jonathan Charteris-Black] explains. ‘But when other groups feel threatened or challenged by it, they might want to subvert it in some way. And by using the enemy’s weapons, that makes it an even more powerful tool for them.’
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The subversion of ‘woke’ is political and means the word can now be used to perpetuate the very injustices it sought to eradicate in the first place. This word has power, and the people who use it as a weapon are all too aware of the underlying connotations of racial and social ideologies. It is used to undermine and disparage the voices committed to fighting for social justice and the rights of minorities – and to silence these views without engaging with them."
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GeorgeQ 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:15 pm
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This article from the Guardian by Larissa Behrendt and Lindon Coombes gives some background on the report.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/18/we-were-told-go-your-hardest-examining-racism-at-collingwood-heres-what-we-found
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PyreneesPie Pisces

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm
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FFS, just as we finally have a sports journalist (Jake Niall) seeing it all from a wider perspective above, and the club takes its first big step towards addressing racism with the advisory group, Shae McNamara decides to lay the boots in some more on his Twitter account. Calls out Luke Ball, Maxy, Bucks, Eddie (of course) and Pendles. Sigh.

It's starting to look like Heritier and friends are more focused on getting revenge than contributing in a positive way to moving forward. Aah well, their perrogative I guess as personal healing will take as long as it takes. However, trying to exact personal revenge can inhibit true progress being made. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:36 pm
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K wrote:
"... there’s an emotional immaturity about a country so reliant on sport to confront racial questions, that pays greater attention to a footy club’s review than government’s Closing The Gap report."

Kapow!


Football is a medium. It doesn't surprise me that more people are influenced by sport then straight up politics. A lot of people tune out to politics.

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Pebbles Rocks 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:58 pm
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Jake Niall nailed it.
One of the few old school journalists out there that does not try to sensationalise everything and provides some sensible balance

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5 from the wing on debut 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:41 pm
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We should just be thankful that Daniel Kerr wasn't one of ours.
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MatthewBoydFanClub 



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:03 pm
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Jake Niall is a friend of the Collingwood Football Club and has the best intentions as a football journalist. Why can't the broader football community takes us for what we are? We're doing our best to stamp out any form of racism at the club with hiring the best people to move the club forward. Unfortunately there are people out there pretending that racism only exists at the Collingwood Football Club and delight in knocking us.
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