"Do Better" review made public

[thesoretoothsayer]

Interesting read.
I'm not sure I would've said "go your hardest" to someone doing a review of my business. I might have said be independent and impartial.

[Redlight]

[Mr Miyagi]

[slangman]

Shae’s approach has been similar to Lumumba’s. Throw hand grenades at individuals via the media without actually disclosing any of the first hand information that they no doubt have.
A bit of advice to Shae, instead of making grand demands of people via twitter, why don’t you state the actual facts as you remember them. Yes, names of the people who made the jokes, nicknames, stereotyping behaviour etc. As i have stated all along in this saga, Maxwell was the one closest to Heritier. H spent pre game nights with Nick and his family so i have always wondered if H ever brought these issues up with Maxy….but really, all Lumumbas anger began around 2012 when Ralph O’Brien died and the family secrets came out.
BTW, why haven’t H or Shae mentioned Malthouse in any of this???. Considering he was their coach for all but a year or two I would think that his version of events would be very helpful at this time.

[Mr Miyagi]

This might sound a bit weird, but what years did H shave his head? I can’t remember him having a “bald” head in his first couple of years.

[billy_picken25]

[PyreneesPie]

[Cruisinwithdids]

Very informative article about what governance measures need to be implemented. The big positive here for Collingwood, is that we can become leaders in this space with MCGuire no longer protecting himself. There will be others that need to go too in the coming years, possibly the coach amongst them. As many have said here, there will be a lot of other clubs not facing the music on this subject. It is a massive opportunity for Collingwood to get an advantage on all of those clubs as a destination of choice, and be the club you go to to realise success.

[David]

Like most outside observers, Cassidy wouldn't have known exactly what was going on behind closed doors – indeed, few people did until 2017, a few whispered rumours aside – so I'm not sure what your point is, PP.

I also think that painting McNamara's posts as "revenge" is a bit jaundiced. We need to let go of this Collingwood supporter victim mentality and stop being so protective of the club; yes, it sounds like a positive step forward that the club has just instituted an expert group to implement the report's recommendations, but it doesn't mean that Lumumba and his friends are obliged to shut up and go home now. McNamara's post is confronting individuals who could have stood up for Lumumba but chose to stay silent, even when they may have been themselves complicit in the club's casually racist culture (particularly Maxwell, who is, in no small irony, now the club's leadership and culture manager). Maybe the truth hurts, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to put it out there.

[BazBoy]

Will it take a few seasons to create what the review determines as there may be others who occupied the locker room in the last decade who have been silent thru this episode in clubs history

[Mr Miyagi]

[K]

"But McNamara backtracked on a false claim that Maxwell had named his dog after Lumumba because it was black. The claim came as a surprise to the Maxwell family as the dog’s name is Ralph and was named by Maxwell’s wife Erin.

Sources said the 2010 premiership skipper, who works at Collingwood, is seeking legal advice on McNamara’s allegations.

After his initial thread, McNamara tweeted: “I need to clarify something. In my attempt to make a point of their tight bond. I said Nick called his dog Ralph, solely after Heritier’s middle name. Although he did joke that he did it for that reason, HIS WIFE NAMED IT RALPH.”"

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/former-magpie-takes-aim-at-premiership-players-over-lumumba-20210218-p573pk.html


The legal advice will be: There's no legal avenue for Maxwell.

[5 from the wing on debut]

What's the dog's opinion?

[David]

[K]

J. Price:

"Replace the word Collingwood in the Do Better report with the word Australia and you have an accurate assessment of the state of racism in this country: that’s certainly the view of key Australian researchers. Just like Collingwood, Australia “is perceived as being defensive, doubling down and denying allegations instead of taking an active and proactive approach”.

For nearly 30 years, Kevin Dunn, now pro vice-chancellor at Western Sydney University, has studied racism and antiracism. He says there is a grudging use of the word racism in public documents – but still little acceptance from leaders racism even exists in Australia.
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Gail Mason is a professor of criminology at the University of Sydney law school and co-director of the Australian Hate Crime Network. ...

“Australia pretends it doesn’t have a hate crime problem,” Mason says. “That’s exacerbated by communities feeling they can’t or shouldn’t report it ... under-reporting is a huge problem. I am often asked if hate crime is going up in Australia but we don’t have the data to answer that.”
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Hage says in Australia “we have a record number of denials of the existence of racism”.

“In Australia we seem to think it is the racists who get to decide whether we are racists are not. We have a good tradition of peace movements and organisations in Australia but if you are antiracist you will never be satisfied with what you have achieved. It is important to have a horizon but also to think on a daily basis what one can achieve.”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/yes-we-can-do-better-the-ugly-truth-about-racism-in-australia-20210204-p56zqq.html