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Harrysz
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Our club's system of appointing a Board and a President is based on the "parliamentary model". In Australia we don't vote for Prime Minister. We vote for a party and the party with the most seats becomes the Government and appoints the Prime Minister. We don't have a separate election for Prime Minister.
Our club operates along similar lines. The Board is elected by the members and then the Board appoints the President. Eddie Maguire resigned and eventually the Board appointed Mark Korda as President. All of this was done according to Hoyle and our Constitution. To those who are complaining about Mark Korda being made President I say - There will be an Annual General Meeting in 10 months or so. If you think that you're the one, stand for election with a slate of proposed new Board members. In the meantime give Mark Korda a chance to prove himself. Complaints from "people associated with Collingwood" are divisive and hearken back to the bad old days from decades ago when there were fights over the management of our club. There is nothing so guaranteed to spell failure as warring factions within and without our club. Carlton supporters would love all of this! |
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RudeBoy
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| I do however, think it would be a healthy outcome for our club to actually have an election this year. A whole board of appointees, leads to group think and a lack of real connection to our members. That's not good for our club. |
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David 
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
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| Harrysz wrote: | | If you think that you're the one, stand for election with a slate of proposed new Board members. |
This is the problem, isn't it: what if you like some Board members and not others? Shouldn't there be other options other than 1) letting the Board appoint who it wants and serve for as long as it wants, without any accountability to members; or 2) the disruption and chaos of turfing the entire lot out and scrape together an entire alternative Board from scratch (something that I'm guessing is so difficult that it has hardly ever been accomplished at any football club)?
If those are the only two options, then you've basically got a club in the form of a single-party state. And maybe some people are fine with that, but I see no reason why every position shouldn't be up for election at least once every couple of years with all members entitled to cast a vote.
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RudeBoy
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| David wrote: | | Harrysz wrote: | | If you think that you're the one, stand for election with a slate of proposed new Board members. |
This is the problem, isn't it: what if you like some Board members and not others? Shouldn't there be other options other than 1) letting the Board appoint who it wants and serve for as long as it wants, without any accountability to members; or 2) the disruption and chaos of turfing the entire lot out and scrape together an entire alternative Board from scratch (something that I'm guessing is so difficult that it has hardly ever been accomplished at any football club)?
If those are the only two options, then you've basically got a club in the form of a single-party state. And maybe some people are fine with that, but I see no reason why every position shouldn't be up for election at least once every couple of years with all members entitled to cast a vote. |
Each year 2 board members come up for re-election. If someone wants to challenge for a board position, they have to win an election over the 2 incumbents. The biggest hurdle is that incumbency is very powerful, as they have the resources of the members mailing list and website etc to promote their re-election, placing an 'outsider', regardless of how good they are, at a significant disadvantage. Any challenger at all, is likely to be labelled a 'disrupter'. |
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Jezza 
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Joined: 06 Sep 2010
Location: Ponsford End
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| Post subject: Re: Our system of elections | |
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| Harrysz wrote: | Our club's system of appointing a Board and a President is based on the "parliamentary model". In Australia we don't vote for Prime Minister. We vote for a party and the party with the most seats becomes the Government and appoints the Prime Minister. We don't have a separate election for Prime Minister.
Our club operates along similar lines. The Board is elected by the members and then the Board appoints the President. Eddie Maguire resigned and eventually the Board appointed Mark Korda as President. All of this was done according to Hoyle and our Constitution. To those who are complaining about Mark Korda being made President I say - There will be an Annual General Meeting in 10 months or so. If you think that you're the one, stand for election with a slate of proposed new Board members. In the meantime give Mark Korda a chance to prove himself. Complaints from "people associated with Collingwood" are divisive and hearken back to the bad old days from decades ago when there were fights over the management of our club. There is nothing so guaranteed to spell failure as warring factions within and without our club. Carlton supporters would love all of this! |
Well said, Harry.
I don't think we can afford an EGM at this moment particularly with antagonists from the Browne camp pushing for one.
Korda's been appointed. Now let's get on with it and start building this club back to the top where it belongs.
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stui magpie 
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Joined: 03 May 2005
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Correct. Only Social Club Members get to vote.
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Jezza
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
Correct. Only Social Club Members get to vote. |
Yep that includes Club 5, Legends and other Social Club members.
I think that roughly constitutes 15,000 Collingwood members.
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