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Mr Miyagi
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What'sinaname 
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A troubling read.
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Redlight
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I have no doubt that Leon's account is true and likely typical. The only issue I have with this reporting is the public perception that this is a particularly Collingwood phenomenon.
Racism is league wide and no worse at Collingwood than anywhere else. probably better than a lot of clubs.
Collingwood traditionally has garnered the most attention for every negative incident because the Pies sell papers and football culture invites hatred of Collingwood.
We're at the centre of the current storm only because we're taking steps to address it. The only club to tackle it head on and the public takeaway has become 'racist Collingwood'.
Even Lumumba said...
"I can guarantee you if the AFL was extensively audited, it would reveal even worse findings than the Collingwood Football Club,”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-racism-review-would-have-findings-even-worse-than-collingwood-lumumba-20210203-p56z6w.html
We should acknowledge the issues and take action but reject, outright, the attempt to paint Collingwood as 'THE racist club'. |
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Mr Miyagi
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^^ Redlight, that’s why Ed said it was a proud day for the club. I’m still filthy at McLachlan for putting on his fake outrage about it to deflect attention from the AFL and make himself look good. AFL and other clubs have more skeletons in the closet than Collingwood. We’re addressing ours — they’re not, and happy to see us get all the attention. But the fact is, what Leon experienced is shocking and the club should be ashamed. Lumumba and his nickname too, even though as Caff said they thought it had been addressed.
Wellingham’s mum tweeted he experienced racism, and Wellingham himself said he personally didn’t get it at Collingwood. Which puts West Coast under the spotlight. It’s AFL wide, and it’s particularly a problem with elite groups — AFL clubs, SAS, police, etc — where the nail that sticks out (speaks their mind) gets hammered down.
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Mr Miyagi
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | A troubling read. |
I’m thinking of the players around in Leon’s first year and I just can’t fathom Buckley and Pebbles for example being a part of it. Maybe they did a Shae McNamara, told players they shouldn’t do it once, then got on with focusing on their footy. Like Leon said, he was treated like a snitch for too long but he learnt to be more assertive and call it out when he saw it. |
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K
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| Redlight wrote: | ...
Racism is league wide and no worse at Collingwood than anywhere else. probably better than a lot of clubs.
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We have no way of knowing either way.
Sadly, we do know that two presidents have embarrassed themselves and the club with their words. Has any other club had even one (in modern times)? |
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Mr Miyagi
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| K wrote: | | Redlight wrote: | ...
Racism is league wide and no worse at Collingwood than anywhere else. probably better than a lot of clubs.
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We have no way of knowing either way.
Sadly, we do know that two presidents have embarrassed themselves and the club with their words. Has any other club had even one (in modern times)? |
Jeff Kennett. Others spring to mind, but none of them are as prolific in the media and as nationally well known as Eddie Maguire. |
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| Mr Miyagi wrote: | ...
Jeff Kennett. Others spring to mind, but none of them are as prolific in the media and as nationally well known as Eddie Maguire. |
What allegedly racist statement has Jeff made? (I reckon the best candidate is Elliott, but I don't know of any racist statement he made either.) |
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Mr Miyagi
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| K wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | ...
Jeff Kennett. Others spring to mind, but none of them are as prolific in the media and as nationally well known as Eddie Maguire. |
What allegedly racist statement has Jeff made? (I reckon the best candidate is Elliott, but I don't know of any racist statement he made either.) |
You didn’t say racism, you just said embarrassed themselves and the club with stupid words. |
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| I mean racism. |
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Mr Miyagi
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Quite a few, but behind closed doors. Not publicly like our two blockheads |
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Presti35 
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Why would anyone investigate another club? That isn't newsworthy. Well maybe Essendon.
Not saying Collingwood hasnt been wrong in the past or made any bad decisions in the past few weeks, but another club could have Adolf Hitler in charge and it would get little fanfare.
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Sicks Bux 
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I thought he cheated on his wife with a significantly younger member of his staff and then left the wife for her. Seems pretty straight forward. Or was it more messy than that?
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Mr Miyagi
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| I’ve always been dirty with Mick for dropping Leon for the grand final rematch. I often wondered if it wasn’t about how many kicks he got, but just that Mick didn’t like him. After reading the article, I can imagine Leon still wasn’t accepted by certain people at the club for speaking up about racism and rocking the boat. |
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