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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:36 pm
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How fitting that Collingwood is playing for the Pratt Cup this week. Hard to believe it's been nine years.

It was in 2009 that the CFC board announced they had agreed to Carlton's request to beatify Australia's greatest corporate criminal, Richard Pratt, with a perpetual trophy named in his honour. Not surprisingly, the CFC membership howled it's disapproval.

Caught out in a moment of hubris, Eddie McGuire quickly called a press conference to announce the succession plan - forever tainting it with the stain of the Pratt Cup.

Football is a religion and religion is about folklore and superstition. I made the claim at the time that the succession plan was cursed. I was right.

A flag in 2010 and GF appearance in 2011 was enough to convince Buckley he should probably put things off for a year or two. Would this have lifted the curse? We'll never know. McGuire was adamant and no longer the pragmatist he once was. It would go ahead as planned.

Last night the pundits on the TV said Buckley was the "unluckiest coach in the history of the game" due to the injuries he has dealt with over the journey.

Unlucky or cursed? We will never know until we refuse to play for that stupid cup ever again.

Starting this Friday. Dump the Cup. Lift the curse. Save Buckley.

Email the CFC now.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm
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1970 wrote:
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Caught out in a moment of hubris, Eddie McGuire quickly called a press conference to announce the succession plan...
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A flag in 2010 and GF appearance in 2011 was enough to convince Buckley he should probably put things off for a year or two. Would this have lifted the curse? We'll never know. McGuire was adamant and no longer the pragmatist he once was. It would go ahead as planned.
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Please elaborate.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:57 pm
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It was reported in the news at the time of the change over. Nobody paid much attention, but Buckley made sure he got it on the record. Ask him about it next time you see him at a VFL game or something like that.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:16 pm
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1970's description of the late Richard Pratt is disgraceful.
The mods should not have allowed it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:42 pm
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Harrysz wrote:
1970's description of the late Richard Pratt is disgraceful.
The mods should not have allowed it.

If you can't go the throat of a Carlton man ....what is left?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:32 pm
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1953 Morrish Medalist

I worked for “Dick” Richard Pratt and when I had a serious industrial accident
at Visy he supported me without question

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:45 pm
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Ahh the internet, where facts are "disgraceful".

$700 million is what Pratt stole. Nobody has come close since.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:08 pm
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By the way when did they adopt Pratt Cup

Did we not originally play for Peter Mc Cullum cup

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:13 pm
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Richard Pratt, a man who was much improved by death.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:36 pm
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BazBoy wrote:
By the way when did they adopt Pratt Cup

Did we not originally play for Peter Mc Cullum cup


Still do.

Pratt Cup is for Prostate Cancer when Carlton are the home team

Peter Mc is for the Cancer Hospital when Collingwood is the home team

Both are worthy causes to play for.

The Pratt Cup complainants sound a wee bit bit like the surname might suggest. A bit churlish some might say.

Yes he was a crook (How carlton like) but paid his penalty - the harshest at the time and his reputation has been suitably & irreparably tarnished.

It's heatening to see that an employer looked after injured employees Baz.

Go Pies

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:40 pm
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I have no idea what to say.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:16 pm
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Harrysz wrote:
1970's description of the late Richard Pratt is disgraceful.
The mods should not have allowed it.

I agree. He has a daughter and a son in law on the board at Collingwood. Also, calling him a crook is a gross misunderstanding of the circumstances he was fined for price fixing. His competitor, Amcor did a deal with the government to avoid prosecution. The board at Amcor were just as guilty as Pratt because they were in on the price fixing. Pratt wasn't convicted of any crime. Companies are fined every day of the week for breaching the ACCC rules and no one bats an eyelid, but Pratt copped it because of his high profile.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:25 pm
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Harrysz wrote:
1970's description of the late Richard Pratt is disgraceful.
The mods should not have allowed it.

I agree. He has a daughter and a son in law on the board at Collingwood. Also, calling him a crook is a gross misunderstanding of the circumstances he was fined for price fixing. His competitor, Amcor did a deal with the government to avoid prosecution. The board at Amcor were just as guilty as Pratt because they were in on the price fixing. Pratt wasn't convicted of any crime. Companies are fined every day of the week for breaching the ACCC rules and no one bats an eyelid, but Pratt copped it because of his high profile.


Oh come on. His rort stole from every man, women and child in Australia for years. Amcor did too and were just as guilty. Pratt didn't get convicted because he died before trial. Pratt was an absolute scumbag who swanned around as the great philanthropist, but it easy to be charitable with stolen money. May God spit on his grave.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:06 pm
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Remember working one Sat morning (the day North won flag #1 in 1975

Dick walked thru and said “Baz want a ticket to the GF” so I took it and went

Was sitting next to a senior executive and a young redhead kid who I was introduced as Anthony

Peter ( Visy bigwig) had Anthony running for beer ,running for hot dogs

So was my meeting with the current Visy owner

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:09 pm
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How is a 15-yr-old able to get beer, Baz? Are there different alcohol rules for the Pratts?
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