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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:40 pm
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Collingwood 13.9.87
Richmond 11.5.71

Goals: Elliott 3, Cameron, JT, 2, Pendles, Grundy, Murphy, De Goey, Adams, Checkers,

Tackles: Adams 10, Elliott 5, IQ, Roughy 4.

D/E: Pendles 91.7%, Roughy 86.7, Noble 85.7, JT 84.2, Callum 83.3,

Disposals: Crisp 33, Adams 31, De Goey 29, H-E 26, Madgen 25, Pendles, Mayne 24, Grundy 22, Callum 24, Elliott 21, Sidey 20, Roughy 15, JT 19

AF Points: Grundy 139, Adams 131, Crisp 118, De Goey 117, Elliott 100.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:56 pm
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PyreneesPie wrote:
Pies2016 wrote:
The reason is because the opposition was better than us on the day.


Has a fair amount to do with the outcome, doesn't it!! Very Happy


Classic point in question. How many times did we hit up a player on his own in the middle of the ground.
Does anyone honestly think that three time premiership outfit would give up that option all alone in the middle of the ground unattended. If they did that every week, they would still be known as ninthmond.
That’s their problem and not ours. Our players saw it and they took the option and it repeatedly kept us in the game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:16 am
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Liking Harvey's press conference. Also interesting the players referencing what harves emphasizes during the breaks. Liking this change a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:44 am
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Sunday twilight matches normally do not attract much fanfare, and it was most unusual for two high-profile clubs in Melbourne being given this timeslot, as a result of their recent performances for the majority of this season in 2021. When the final siren sounded, Collingwood shocked the reigning premiers Richmond with a sublime final term to emerge victorious by 16 points, after trailing by as much as 29 points during time on of the third term, and ultimately 20 points at three quarter time. For three quarters, the Magpies could not make their field position dominance count on the scoreboard with dominance in disposals, marks, clearances and Inside 50s and gifted the Tigers easy goals at the inopportune time throughout the evening. To Collingwood's credit they kept themselves within 5 goals with majors to stem the bleeding against the run of play when Richmond threatened to run away with the points. Once the final quarter got underway, the Woods were finally able to cash in on the dominance they made on the scoreboard, which they were not able to demonstrate earlier in the game. The vast majority of Collingwood's disposals, clearances, marks and Inside 50s during the last quarter resulted in quality shots at goal, and were largely converted to signify a story of redemption within a game.

Collingwood basically won every stat in the book, such as disposals by +97 (440 - 343), kicks were won by +58 (240 - 182), +39 for handballs (200 - 161), while contested possessions were up by +25 (153 - 128), uncontested possessions had a differential of +86 (296 - 210), and intercept possessions were won by +9 (83 - 74). Hit-outs had a margin of +27 in Collingwood's favour ( 45 - 18 ), with clearances won by +5 (35 - 30), centre clearances were won narrowly by +1 (13 - 12), while stoppage clearances had an advantage of +4 ( 22 - 18 ). Uncontested marks had a differential of +55 (110 - 55), Contested Marks were up by +3 (12 - 9), as were Marks Inside 50 by +3 (13 - 10). Tackles were won narrowly by +1 (54 - 53), while Tackles Inside 50 had a differential of +3 (12 - 9). The night was capped off with an advantage of +4 for Inside 50s (55 - 51), on a night where every stat the Magpies had won became reward for effort and execution.

Jack Crisp (33 disposals @ 76%, 601 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 16 handballs, 10 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 7 Rebound 50s) had a supreme night in the midfield, where he would fold back as an extra defender to take marks and bite off kicks in the corridor that were highly effective.

Taylor Adams (31 disposals @ 71%, 567 metres gained, 18 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 15 handballs, 2 marks, 10 tackles, 8 score involvements, 10 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 6 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) extracted the ball from congestion with great regularity, although his foot skills were sloppy at stages, he was able to overcome those deficiencies by continuing to win the ball in the middle with clearances and applied an excellent number of tackles. Adams also made a statement with a team-lifting goal in the fourth quarter to generate serious momentum.

Jordan De Goey (29 disposals @ 69%, 342 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 11 handballs, 10 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 2 tackles, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) had a very similar night to Taylor Adams, where he was sloppy with his ball use, before coming up trumps in the final term, where he kicked the goal that put Collingwood in front for the first time in the game, and then showed composure and poise to square the ball back into the corridor from the pocket to allow Nathan Murphy to mark the ball and convert his first goal at AFL level.

Will Hoskin-Elliott (26 disposals @ 81%, 404 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 11 handballs, 5 marks, 4 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) played a very good game on the wing with his ability to use the ball effectively, as well as his work rate to take a handful of marks to allow his team to have more time in possession to control the tempo on Collingwood's terms.

Scott Pendlebury (24 disposals @ 92%, 333 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 14 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goal assists, 10 score involvements, 5 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) did not waste a single disposal, which meant he made each possession count, with trademark feigns to open up gaps in packs to handpass or kick to a teammate's advantage when he found time and space to kick the ball. Pendlebury's pass to Jamie Elliott was impeccably perfect, as Pendlebury's kick went to Elliott's advantage, and Elliott was able to run to the right spot to take the mark before kicking his 3rd goal for the evening.

Callum Brown (24 disposals @ 83%, 328 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 21 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 16 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 2 clearances & 6 Inside 50s) thrived in his new role in the midfielder, where he was able to play to his strengths by releasing teammates into space with high efficiency, and he was prepared to move the ball forward to allow the Magpies more time to defend Richmond's attacks.

Brodie Grundy (22 disposals @ 68%, 175 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 40 hit-outs, 12 kicks, 10 handballs, 5 marks, 5 tackles, 8 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) recaptured his best form against the Tigers on a night where he did not execute his ruck craft early, before putting on a magical display where the vast majority of his taps (hit-outs) were able to find Adams & Pendlebury who then had first use out of the middle, especially in that awe-inspiring quarter. Lovely to see Grundy clunk a mark up forward and convert a major to put significant scoreboard pressure on the Tigers.

Jack Madgen (25 disposals @ 80%, 244 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 13 handballs, 5 marks & 2 score involvements) did not have a perfect night, if I'm being frank. Intercepting psssessions and taking marks are Madgen's stengths. His weaknesses are magnified highly due to his lack of composure with ball in hand, which reduces his ability to be completely reliable to his coaches and teammates.

Chris Mayne (24 disposals @ 79%, 230 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 marks, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) played a conservative game of footy with a number of short kicks to maintain possession or handpasses to designated runners such as Noble, Quaynor or Maynard with Crisp folding back to link up with Mayne ahead of the play for progressive ball movement.

John Noble (21 disposals @ 86%, 350 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 7 handballs, 8 marks, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) provided run and carry with excellent ball use from defence, and pushed higher up the ground between the arcs to give Collingwood's forwards a look at the footy closer to goal. Noble is a line-breaker and rarely wastes his possessions from the last line of defence or half-back.

Brayden Maynard (21 disposals @ 67%, 481 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 11 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 5 handballs, 7 marks, 3 Contested Marks, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 6 Rebound 50s) looked to kick long from defence as often as he could, which he executed reasonably well. Got injured during the game with a collarbone ailment, but managed to push through the pain barrier and was able to clunk important marks behind the ball to thwart Richmond's forays ahead of the ball.

Jordan Roughead (15 disposals @ 87%, 178 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 5 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements & 5 Rebound 50s) gave great stability behind the play to clunk marks at the right time and dished off short kicks to a teammate who could do more damage with the pill.

Jamie Elliott (21 disposals @ 71%, 297 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 8 handballs, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 5 tackles, 4 Tackles Inside 50, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 3 goals) gave Collingwood an avenue to goal when goals were at a premium early in the piece where Billy took his chances to keep the Magpies in touch of the Tigers, before getting some silver service in the last quarter to take marks and converted an important goal to keep the team's momentum flowing.

Josh Thomas (19 disposals @ 84%, 154 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 11 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) has had a filthy season thus far until tonight. Thomas got Collingwood started during the third term, and was the player that effectively iced the game to put the Magpies up by 15 points with 2 minutes remaining in the contest to snuff out any chance that Richmond may have had to steal the game back in their favour.

Brody Mihocek (15 disposals @ 67%, 246 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 6 handballs, 5 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 3 tackles, 6 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) gave Collingwood a target up forward to kick to, but unfortunately for Mihocek, his inability to convert his opportunities over the last two months has been extremely noticeable. Mihocek needs to rediscover his goalkicking accuracy before the season reaches its conclusion. Work on it, Brody!

Darcy Cameron (13 disposals @ 69%, 8 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 5 hit-outs, 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 7 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) had a very good game up forward where he clunked his marks and converted every opportunity that came his way. Very pleased with his scoreboard impact.

Collingwood's next game will be against Carlton on July 18 (my 31st birthday) at the MCG. Defeating the Blues would be my best birthday present ever, and I want Darcy Cameron ( his birthday is also on July 18 ) to have an equally great 26th birthday where he clunks his marks and converts goals up forward. From a team perspective, I want the Woods to impact the scoreboard in every quarter on offer. Do not leave it until the last quarter to win the game as it will not be sustainable every time. As I sign off, it was great that Robert Harvey got to taste victory as Collingwood's coach for the first time in his life.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:01 am
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Great analysis JC.

So impressed by the team today, historic final quarter.

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Was very pleasing to see Henry, Murphy and C Brown have solid games and stand up in the big moments, there was a whole host of others too.

Was particularly encouraged by the way the team played on and looked into the corridor right from the start, they persisted even when it looked like it was going to backfire. Outstanding win.

Putting another nail in the coffin of Richmond's season and handing GWS an inferior draft pick a bonus.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:12 am
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Richmond have come back to earth after five years of unheard of luck with player availability which enabled them to capitalise on the terrible injury curses that their rivals had to endure.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:33 am
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Waking up winners feels so good!

That’s an awesome analysis, thanks for taking the time!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:45 am
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Gotta admire Martin as a player and I love the fend off but when he gets it wrong he has to be penalised. Did anyone else notice that in lead up to Lynch's goal at the 22minute mark of the last quarter, JT has Martin cold but Martin gets him in the face with the fend off. Martin hits Lynch with the pass while JT spends the next 2 minutes on the ground recovering.
A clear free kick to JT.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:49 am
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I am so enthused with the youth coming in to the side —the Henry,s and Ruscoe,s and Bianco +12 gamer Murphy
And their probably best two recruits this year were out of the side
McCreery /Poulter

Bring on the future

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:55 am
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Big T wrote:
Liking Harvey's press conference. Also interesting the players referencing what harves emphasizes during the breaks. Liking this change a lot.

Can you elaborate on what the players referenced?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:00 am
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Grundy showed why he is so important too us, an elite ruckman, i trust the anti Grundy drones here will now give him a break, and just STFU at long last.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:30 pm
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Best weekend of the year!

Ash Barty wins Wimbledon
Collingwood beats Richmond
Italy defeats England

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:17 pm
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Final quarter i noticed a few things they made better choices in ball movement.They thought before disposing of the ball.
Also they kick it going inside 50 alot more deeper and in the goal square which helps. Nothing more annoying then shallow entries.
I though we were gone at 3 quarter time but i knew we just had to change a few things to win.
Great win very sweet and i now feel we will beat carlton next week too.
I like the look of our kids too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:47 pm
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Just watched the last quarter again.
We played so well, our decisions, kicking and marking superb.
The new guys looked comfortable today - Henry, Murphy, Bianco, Ruscoe.
Callum Brown is a good midfielder.
Darcy Cameron continues to impress.
Very enjoyable to watch.

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