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The Boy Who Cried Wolf 



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:01 pm
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Nah Poulter's a star.. if injury doesn't get him he'll play 250+ games.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:01 pm
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Lazza wrote:
shawthing wrote:
Am I the only truly cynical poster here who thinks that if Collingwood was on top of the ladder and a red hot chance to win the flag this year, the AFL would have called the season off blaming Covid as the reason


yes you are.


Not enough responses to make your comment right mate. At this point I’ll merely disagree with you. My experiences tell me otherwise.[/quote]

Don't quote me as saying that Lazza. You know it's not true. And I didn't say it. You did!

The season might be called off if things get worse in Victoria and Queensland. And it doesn't matter who is in contention.
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i hate carlton 



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:10 pm
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I left to meet a mate at the local pub just as the third quarter finished, feeling pretty confident.

WTF happened in the last quarter?

Gutted

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:15 pm
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i hate carlton wrote:
I left to meet a mate at the local pub just as the third quarter finished, feeling pretty confident.

WTF happened in the last quarter?

Gutted

We stopped running.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:24 pm
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
Nah Poulter's a star.. if injury doesn't get him he'll play 250+ games.


AFL ??
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:34 pm
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i hate carlton wrote:
I left to meet a mate at the local pub just as the third quarter finished, feeling pretty confident.

WTF happened in the last quarter?

Gutted

Our pressure dropped off significantly and we couldn't win centre clearances with Walsh leading the way for Carlton.

It was essentially a role reversal of last week's final quarter performance against Richmond.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:05 pm
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inxs88 wrote:
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^ The only surprising thing about that is that anyone could still seriously hold the opinion that Buckley might have done better.


Classless to dance on the grave of such a great servant of the Pies.

It certainly beats writing hagiographies.
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JC Hartley Cancer

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:08 am
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For three quarters, Collingwood had firm control of the lead and the game before giving Carlton complete control and dominance in the last quarter to fail by 29 points. The Magpies showed no desire to compete for the ball at all and executed their skills poorly during that disastrous final term, whereas the Blues played the game on their terms without being challenged. It is extremely disheartening that the Woods were able to put three competitive quarters together when they had enough control and scoreboard pressure to stay ahead of the game. Collingwood capitulated and undid all of the work that allowed them to lead by as much as 20 points at one stage, before the Blues gave the Pies the blues when it truly mattered. In a nutshell, I was pleased that Collingwood put three quarters together, but the manner in how they played and lost in that horrid fourth quarter will leave the players and coaching staff searching for solutions.

Collingwood won their statistical categories from disposals by +7 (357 - 350), handballs were won by +22 (142 - 120), while uncontested possessions had a differential of +19 (227 - 208). Hit-outs went Collingwood's way by +9 (32 - 23), +20 for tackles (62 - 42), with Tackles Inside 50 up by +4 (10 - 6). Uncontested marks had an advantage of +5 (99 - 94), with Marks Inside 50 won by +2 (14 - 12). Carlton gained control from kicks by +15 (230 - 215), won contested possessions by +13 (136 - 123), clearances had a margin of +14 (36 - 22), while centre clearances were won by +5 ( 13 - 8 ), with stoppage clearances up by +9 (23 - 14). Contested Marks were won by +3 ( 21 - 18 ), and Inside 50s had a gap of +9 (54 - 45). Intercept possessions (68 each) was the only statistic in dispute from today's game.

Jordan De Goey (31 disposals @ 74%, 507 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 25 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 19 kicks, 12 handballs, 12 marks, 2 tackles, 8 score involvements, 6 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) was the only player that won his position convincingly. De Goey worked extremely hard to take marks, while producing scoring chains with high regularity. De Goey is evolving as a midfielder in recent times.

Taylor Adams (24 disposals @ 62%, 260 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 14 handballs, 8 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) played solidly without tearing the match apart. Adams was the only player to win 5 clearances, which highlights Taylor's importance to the team.

Scott Pendlebury (18 disposals @ 61%, 277 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) played his worst game of the season, and perhaps his career with a number of inexplicable skill errors that significantly diminished his ability to impact the game meaningfully. Pendlebury is normally exemplary with his skills and ability to hit targets. He did not achieve those levels today.

Jack Crisp (17 disposals @ 88%, 225 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 10 handballs, 5 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) had an average game with no impact on the match, other than his ability to consistently hit targets effectively.

Brodie Grundy (16 disposals @ 75%, 293 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 27 hit-outs, 9 kicks, 7 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) started the game like a house on fire in the opening term, and maintained that level of excellence in the second term. His body of work after half time though was incredibly awful and deplorable, where he failed to give his midfield first use in the centre and from stoppages, while allowing inexperienced ruckmen in Tom De Koning and Jack Silvagni to neutralise or outpoint him aerially at ruck contests.

Steele Sidebottom (16 disposals @ 75%, 292 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 3 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) looked to gain territory with his possessions after taking marks, which allowed his team opportunities to hit the scoreboard.

Chris Mayne (26 disposals @ 92%, 240 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 8 handballs, 10 marks, 3 tackles, 3 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) defended impeccably once again with several intercept marks coupled with controlled ball use to find targets exiting out of defence.

John Noble (25 disposals @ 80%, 455 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 9 handballs, 11 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) made an effort to take the game on by surging the ball forward after taking marks, while also displaying desire to create scoring chains from half-back.

Trey Ruscoe (23 disposals @ 83%, 223 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 11 handballs, 5 marks, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) played his best game for the club as a defender learning how to play his position, after his previous games for the Magpies have been as a forward with mixed results, but largely ineffective. Ruscoe looked comfortable behind the ball won he won possession and made an effort to hit simple targets, especially after taking marks.

Isaac Quaynor (22 disposals @ 91%, 246 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 12 handballs, 7 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) demonstrated his will and desire to win the ball and take the game on. Unfortunately, Quaynor either coughed the ball up or got caught in tackles he could not break to allow fluent and continuous ball movement for his team to keep hitting the scoreboard.

Jamie Elliott (19 disposals @ 58%, 303 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 8 handballs, 6 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 3 tackles, 2 goal assists, 5 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) looked likely and lively up forward with his creativity to set up scores and goals, while taking regular marks up forward to provide his teammates an option.

Trent Bianco (16 disposals @ 69%, 251 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 handballs, 7 marks, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) found a way up forward to win possession, worked high up the ground to take marks and nailed his shot at goal before Carlton went into overdrive later on in the game.

Brody Mihocek (14 disposals @ 64%, 359 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 3 handballs, 9 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 3 tackles, 3 Tackles Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) had a relatively good game up forward where he took marks on the wing and across half forward and chimed in with a major on what was a solid game for him.

Oliver Henry (12 disposals @ 58%, 157 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements & 3 goals) gave Collingwood fans a glimpse into his capabilities with a commanding first half where he clunked marks up forward and booted some terrific goals which allowed Collingwood to have a lead at each of the first two quarters. Once supply up forward had dried up, so did Henry's ability to become influential.

Collingwood's next game will be against Port Adelaide at Marvel Stadium on July 23. Look to salvage as many victories from the wreckage of the 2021 season as possible. The Magpies will now remain in Victoria to play the Power after South Australia went into lockdown for a week. A marvellous victory on the Power's adopted home ground at Marvel Stadium on Friday night would be absolutely wonderful.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:29 am
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62 points. Another snore fest up front.

Only North Melb and Gold Coast have a worse points-for than us this season.

We have the 8th best defence (statistically re: points-against).

The new coach must come in with some better offensive strategies (and centre square ideas) because our defence is relatively fine. Only the sheer weight of clearances against and turnovers in the front half of the ground is what generally break sour usually water-tight defence’s dam walls.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:31 am
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Raw Hammer wrote:
62 points. Another snore fest up front.

Only North Melb and Gold Coast have a worse points-for than us this season.

We have the 8th best defence (statistically re: points-against).

The new coach must come in with some better offensive strategies (and centre square ideas) because our defence is relatively fine. Only the sheer weight of clearances against and turnovers in the front half of the ground is what generally break sour usually water-tight defence’s dam walls.

That's why I think someone like Pyke will be a major contender as our next coach.

His attacking style of play was good at Adelaide, particularly in his first two years with them. Further, he's had an impact at Sydney with their attack which has been acknowledged by Longmire.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:47 am
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Strange that in recent games we have gone ballistic in the last qtr, and kick a bag of goals, as against the Tigers, Saints, Cats, but we did not offer a whimper in this game in the last Qtr. ??
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:20 am
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Only had to beat the scum to salvage something from this turd of a season, but no, just let them run all over the top in the second half. We have no midfield and Pendles and Sidey aren't the answer anymore and we won't move forward until this addressed. Grundy beaten by Silvagni in the ruck, hang your head in shame Brody.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:05 pm
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Grundy was doubled over in pain at one point, any injury news? We were all doubled over in pain, but for other reasons.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:05 pm
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they saying grundy was injured 2nd half one good thing is we saved teagues job
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GreekLunatic wrote:
they saying grundy was injured 2nd half one good thing is we saved teagues job


This!
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