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Pies4shaw 
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And in Victoria
Hospital: 465
ICU: 62
Ventilated: 17
Deaths: 18 |
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Dave The Man 
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Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| pietillidie wrote: | My biggest concern is that after everything, people still have the discipline and stamina of toddlers. While the long game is for the virus to become less brutal, there could still be nasty surprises in store along the way. Imagine the denial and tantrums 
| Quote: | | “People seem to think there has been a linear evolution of the virus from Alpha to Beta to Delta to Omicron,” he told the Observer. “But that is simply not the case. The idea that virus variants will continue to get milder is wrong. A new one could turn out to be even more pathogenic than the Delta variant, for example.” |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/12/scientists-plead-caution-covid-restrictions-lifted-england |
So Only Matter of Time before Lot of People Start Dying and we be back in Total Lockdown then?
As Expert sound like it Possible that we could get lot more Deadlier and Lot More Contagous in variant we have seen so far
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| pietillidie wrote: | My biggest concern is that after everything, people still have the discipline and stamina of toddlers. While the long game is for the virus to become less brutal, there could still be nasty surprises in store along the way. Imagine the denial and tantrums
| Quote: | | “People seem to think there has been a linear evolution of the virus from Alpha to Beta to Delta to Omicron,” he told the Observer. “But that is simply not the case. The idea that virus variants will continue to get milder is wrong. A new one could turn out to be even more pathogenic than the Delta variant, for example.” |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/12/scientists-plead-caution-covid-restrictions-lifted-england |
Mate, it's been nearly 2 years. Yeah a more virulent strain might come along but we'll have to deal with that if and when it does.
In the meantime QR code compliance has plummeted in Vic yet the Government still wants people to do it despite admitting that they aren't using it for contact tracing. People will comply with restrictions that make sense.
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Dave The Man
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| stui magpie wrote: | | pietillidie wrote: | My biggest concern is that after everything, people still have the discipline and stamina of toddlers. While the long game is for the virus to become less brutal, there could still be nasty surprises in store along the way. Imagine the denial and tantrums
| Quote: | | “People seem to think there has been a linear evolution of the virus from Alpha to Beta to Delta to Omicron,” he told the Observer. “But that is simply not the case. The idea that virus variants will continue to get milder is wrong. A new one could turn out to be even more pathogenic than the Delta variant, for example.” |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/12/scientists-plead-caution-covid-restrictions-lifted-england |
Mate, it's been nearly 2 years. Yeah a more virulent strain might come along but we'll have to deal with that if and when it does.
In the meantime QR code compliance has plummeted in Vic yet the Government still wants people to do it despite admitting that they aren't using it for contact tracing. People will comply with restrictions that make sense. |
QR Codes are Pretty Useless and only place that probably really need them are Hospitals and Age Care Centers.
Can get Covid from anywhere at the Moment and you not 100% sure where you go it
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stui magpie
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QR code check ins were set up to support contact tracing, they aren't being used for that.
The secondary purpose was to enforce the "Vaccinated economy".
Aged care and Public Health are the 2 areas that need attention, yes.
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Dave The Man
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| stui magpie wrote: | QR code check ins were set up to support contact tracing, they aren't being used for that.
The secondary purpose was to enforce the "Vaccinated economy".
Aged care and Public Health are the 2 areas that need attention, yes. |
The Vaccinated economy did not even last a Month
What QR Code Check Ins being Used for Now?
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pietillidie
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| Dave The Man wrote: | So Only Matter of Time before Lot of People Start Dying and we be back in Total Lockdown then?
As Expert sound like it Possible that we could get lot more Deadlier and Lot More Contagous in variant we have seen so far |
I think that expert is just worried the government will think the pandemic is 100% over and will get lazy. We still have to be a bit cautious.
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Dave The Man
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| pietillidie wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | So Only Matter of Time before Lot of People Start Dying and we be back in Total Lockdown then?
As Expert sound like it Possible that we could get lot more Deadlier and Lot More Contagous in variant we have seen so far |
I think that expert is just worried the government will think the pandemic is 100% over and will get lazy. We still have to be a bit cautious. |
That makes more Sense.
I agree the Pandamic is not over Yet and We have no real Idea when it will End.
So still need to be Careful with Covid
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stui magpie
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | QR code check ins were set up to support contact tracing, they aren't being used for that.
The secondary purpose was to enforce the "Vaccinated economy".
Aged care and Public Health are the 2 areas that need attention, yes. |
The Vaccinated economy did not even last a Month
What QR Code Check Ins being Used for Now? |
A month? You are still supposed to be fully vaccinated to get into pubs and cafes. I'm not sure about non essential retail as they stopped checking yonks ago.
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| stui magpie wrote: | Mate, it's been nearly 2 years. Yeah a more virulent strain might come along but we'll have to deal with that if and when it does.
In the meantime QR code compliance has plummeted in Vic yet the Government still wants people to do it despite admitting that they aren't using it for contact tracing. People will comply with restrictions that make sense. |
They have to keep some handles in place because it takes too long to wind the system up to measure what's happening and modify behaviour. That time delay would be deadly, and everyone knows it. Simple risk management. The handles are dumb, agree. But that's because culture war nutters ruined the simplest handle of all: standardised mask rules. The well of commonsense steps was poisoned long before the oddball mix of measures you see today.
It needs to be like Korea on high particulate days. A warning goes out and all kids have to wear standardised masks (except in this case the requirement has to be near-universal due to contagion). Sometimes, the yellow dust from inner Mongolia is so bad they have to shut schools. No sooking, toddler tantrums or self-entitled hysteria. But we can't get to that very simple place because governments keep trying to avoid being called 'totalitarian' by drooling Neanderthals or a reckless opposition.
If the response was sensible, its phase-out would also be sensible. But not to be; we're a culture of self-entitled morons who can't organise a church picnic without some twat throwing a tantrum to get his five minutes of attention on Instagram.
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stui magpie
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Sth Korea is less than half the size of Victoria geographically and is far more population dense. The logistics of provision and mandating masks just doesn't comare.
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| pietillidie wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Mate, it's been nearly 2 years. Yeah a more virulent strain might come along but we'll have to deal with that if and when it does.
In the meantime QR code compliance has plummeted in Vic yet the Government still wants people to do it despite admitting that they aren't using it for contact tracing. People will comply with restrictions that make sense. |
They have to keep some handles in place because it takes too long to wind the system up to measure what's happening and modify behaviour. That time delay would be deadly, and everyone knows it. Simple risk management. The handles are dumb, agree. But that's because culture war nutters ruined the simplest handle of all: standardised mask rules. The well of commonsense steps was poisoned long before the oddball mix of measures you see today.
It needs to be like Korea on high particulate days. A warning goes out and all kids have to wear standardised masks (except in this case the requirement has to be near-universal due to contagion). Sometimes, the yellow dust from inner Mongolia is so bad they have to shut schools. No sooking, toddler tantrums or self-entitled hysteria. But we can't get to that very simple place because governments keep trying to avoid being called 'totalitarian' by drooling Neanderthals or a reckless opposition.
If the response was sensible, its phase-out would also be sensible. But not to be; we're a culture of self-entitled morons who can't organise a church picnic without some twat throwing a tantrum to get his five minutes of attention on Instagram. |
This, 100 times this, this is the mentality of Victorian anti vax anti mask anti Dan fuckrptards! Just chuck the brat word in there too.
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Pies4shaw
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Reported today in NSW:
- 1,649 hospitalisations
- 100 people in ICU
- 14 deaths
and in Victoria:
Hospital: 465
ICU: 66
Ventilated: 18
Deaths: 2 |
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Dave The Man
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Heard on the News that Victoria are looking at Possibly getting Rid of QR Codes in Victoria
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David
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Fair enough, I reckon. Doesn't seem to be much point in keeping them around if they're no longer contact tracing.
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